Are Hippie Punk Mod Rockers Still Relevant in Today's Subculture Landscape?

[binzing]

Yeah, the headbangers are among the rockers and sort of over into the emos, a lot of the Native kids here are into either metal or hip hop/rap, those that are into metal are sort of the anti-establishment/ against white people types. Also, to append my previous post, I left out the gangsters and the wannabes, also there are the stoners, a sub-sub culture of the skaters/rockers. Mostly everyone interacts just fine, but there is occasional animosity because of these sort of boundaries. It's actually really interesting to see.

 

[Astronuc]

. . . I left out the gangsters and the wannabes,

Don't you mean Gangstas!?

 

[Poop-Loops]

...what?

"I know what cool is" is like saying "I understand Quantum Mechanics".

It just shows you don't.

 

[binzing]

Yes Astro, that's correct. Its also interesting to note that most of the individual groups listen to certain types of music.

 

[Astronuc]

I am more or less all of the above. It's definitely still like that in our high school, I'll give a breakdown of the groups. We have the preppies (and cali girl types), the jocks, the skaters, the rockers (intermingles with skaters), emos, geeks/nerds, and the fairly regular people. But yeah, I'm not making that up, its pretty much exactly like that at my high school.

I never noticed if there were different cliques or groups at my high school (11 and 12 th grades) - at least it was not so conspicuous. Certainly the jocks stood out since they wore jackets with the school colors. There were those who had long hair, and tended to be more non-conformist than anything.

I went to a different high school in 11th and 12th grade than the one I attended in 10th grade, which had a number of social clubs. I just never cared to belong to a social club.

For the most part, I was a loner in high school. I had a few close friends, most of whom were in the same honors or AP classes, but there was no group. I worked after school (and on weekends) starting in 11th grade, so I just didn't have time to hang out or socialize. In my free time, I'd go bike riding or play soccer, or I'd head over to university or downtown libraries.

 

[Moonbear]

I never noticed if there were different cliques or groups at my high school (11 and 12 th grades) - at least it was not so conspicuous. Certainly the jocks stood out since they wore jackets with the school colors. There were those who had long hair, and tended to be more non-conformist than anything.

When I was in high school, the cliques stood out mostly by what they wore, not the music they listened to. Yep, there were the jocks in the letterman jackets, and what we called "ginkers" (nobody else in my generation has ever heard of this, so it seems a term unique to our high school...don't fret that you don't know this term)...these were the kids who cut class to smoke, had big hair (it was the 80s), wore ripped jeans, black t-shirts from heavy metal concerts, and had their wallets attached to their belt loop with a chain (they were basically considered the low-lifes of the school). We had the ones who wore Benetton clothes, or had Gucchi purses (or at least good fakes), etc...I think they were the same ones who wore the Jordache jeans in junior high, but my memory isn't as clear as it used to be. Then there was sort of a skateboard punk group, but I can't even remember what they wore that distinguished them anymore. And then there were the rest of us who couldn't be bothered with any of that. You really weren't going to find the honor students hanging out with the ginkers, but other than that, the "cliques" weren't really that exclusive...I had friends in all those other categories.

 

[binzing]

At my school only some of the groups are semi-exclusive. If you don't skate, your a poser if you hang with them. Preppies just sort of abuse each other pecking order style so that gets it the way they like it. Gangsters kinda..yeah... Emos..gotta have problems, then make them seem worse than they actually are.

 

[Poop-Loops]

I remember at my high-school it was largly by race. Which is weird, because this is Washington State, not some backwater Alabama town.

This wasn't any sort of rule or even that general, since there was still lots of mixing. Still, the Latinos generally sat with the Latinos at lunch, blacks with the blacks, Asians with the Asians, and since whites were still a majority, they were all over the place and forming some sort of clique out of it was pointless.

Anyway, you still had other groups, like the jocks, preppies, goths, etc.

I was part of the nerd group. There was another nerd group, though. We weren't rivals, we kind of knew each other, but generally weren't friends. I don't know. Have you seen Shawn of the Dead? Where Shawn's group walks by his girlfriend's group, and everybody has their own counterpart? It was sort of like that. Except our group was totally better.

 

[binzing]

Yeah, what you had as goths are now emos. Just to clear that up.

 

[Poop-Loops]

No, goths and emos are different.

 

[binzing]

Ehem, we don't have goths here. I didn't say they were the same. I said the whole thing morphed over time.

 

[Poop-Loops]

No, it didn't morph, because they came from separate places. Goth and emos are based on what music they listen to. While both listen to crap, goths pretend to listen to metal whereas emos pretend to listen to alternative/indie music.

Goths might have went away at your school and emos then came in, but one didn't morph into the other.

 

[binzing]

Fine, no sense arguing. Emos just like to stew in their problems, which are just like the problems everyone else has, they just can't get over them, that's my main reason for disliking them.

 

[Moonbear]

Fine, no sense arguing. Emos just like to stew in their problems, which are just like the problems everyone else has, they just can't get over them, that's my main reason for disliking them.

Hmm...and I just call them, "Those whiney kids nowadays. " Who knew, my mom is an emo.

 

[lisab]

I was a closet big-band fan in high school...

 

[scorpa]

My school had the jocks (mostly hockey players), the cowboys, the stoners and the outcasts haha.

 

[binzing]

Oh, the other thing that is annoying about emos is that they are trying to be non-conformist, but then they get in these big groups of similar emos, so...

 

[Poop-Loops]

The goal of non-conformity is to stop seeking approval from others. Or at least, that's the only way you can truly be free to non-conform. This is a hard concept to live by, especially by teenagers in high-school.

 

[Cyrus]

"I know what cool is" is like saying "I understand Quantum Mechanics".

It just shows you don't.

Should I even dignify this with a serious reply?

 

[Poop-Loops]

I gave you advise?

 

[Cyrus]

To be fair: I edited it before you replied.

However, your post is absolutely childish.

 

[Poop-Loops]

You know, you've called me childish on more than one occasion now. Pretty soon you'll have to explain why you keep saying that.

 

[binzing]

OK, take it to PM, cause I don't want this thread to get blocked as well.

 

[check]

The emo style I think evolved from a combination of punk and goth. 'Scene' is the new, hip style that has come out of emo, but without the sadness and depression.
The wikipedia article about emo made me laugh. "Early trends included straight, unparted hair (similar to that of Romulans and Vulcans in Star Trek)" Lolz

As for me, I was never part of any subculture. I used to go to a lot of punk shows in high school but I hardly dressed the part. Today I usually just wear whatever a girlfriend says looks good on me. I'm so lazy.