Are Hypercomplex Extensions Like g²=i Practically Useful in Mathematics?

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The discussion revolves around the potential practical usefulness of hypercomplex number extensions, specifically the concept of defining a number g such that ##g^2=i##. Participants explore whether such systems have established applications in mathematics or if they are merely theoretical constructs.

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  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant proposes a hypercomplex number defined by ##g^2=i## and suggests that the powers of g exhibit interesting properties.
  • Another participant notes that there exists a complex number with similar properties and references the fundamental theorem of algebra, implying that polynomial expressions like the one presented have solutions.
  • A further contribution mentions a specific complex number, ##\frac{1+i}{\sqrt{2}}##, as fitting the definition and questions whether this could also represent a useful hypercomplex system.
  • Another participant raises a question about the definition of hypercomplex numbers, suggesting that if hypercomplex numbers are defined as division algebras over the reals, then traditional number systems like ##\mathbb{R}## and ##\mathbb{C}## could also be considered hypercomplex, which complicates the discussion of usefulness.
  • This participant also references various hypercomplex systems and their historical context, indicating a broader landscape of number systems that may relate to the original question.

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Participants express differing views on the usefulness of the proposed hypercomplex system, with some questioning its practicality while others point to established mathematical principles that may support its validity. No consensus is reached regarding the overall utility of such systems.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights potential limitations in definitions of hypercomplex numbers and the implications of existing mathematical frameworks, such as the relationship between hypercomplex systems and established number systems like complex numbers.

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Hi,

I was just wondering if an extension of hypercomplex numbers like this have any use or if it would be pointless:

The number g is defined by ##g^2=i##. Then, the powers of g from 0 to 8 (where the cycle restarts) would be 1, g, i, ig, -1, -g, -i, -ig, 1. There's a lot of interesting things I found that you can do with this. I was surprised, however, that I couldn't find a hypercomplex system like this that was established, making me wonder if this system is pointless; it does seem like something someone would come up with easily. Any thoughts?
 
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There is a complex number with that property. Can you find it?

More general: all polynomial expressions like yours have a solution. This is one of the most important properties of the complex numbers: The fundamental theorem of algebra.
 
mfb said:
There is a complex number with that property. Can you find it?

More general: all polynomial expressions like yours have a solution. This is one of the most important properties of the complex numbers: The fundamental theorem of algebra.
I know that ##\frac{1+i}{\sqrt{2}}## fits that definition. But, could this also be a useful hypercomplex system as well?
 
How do you define hypercomplex numbers? I've read a definition which says it's a division algebra over the reals. With this definition ##\mathbb{R}## and ##\mathbb{C}## are also hypercomplex and therefore ##\mathbb{C}[g]## as well, but ##\mathbb{C}=\mathbb{C}[g]##, so how would this help? If you read the corresponding Wikipedia entry you will find interesting objects (number systems like dual numbers, octonions, sedenions, bicomplex numbers, biquaternion numbers) and historical explanations.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypercomplex_number
 

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