Are My Basis Calculations for R3 and R4 Subspaces Correct?

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The discussion focuses on finding the basis for specific subspaces in R3 and R4. For subspace A, the correct basis should consist of vectors that satisfy the condition a=0, indicating a span of the yz-plane, which was misrepresented in the initial attempt. The feedback emphasizes the need for the basis to span the subspace correctly and to demonstrate linear independence. The conversation highlights the importance of geometric interpretation and proper vector representation in basis calculations. Overall, the thread underscores the necessity of accurate calculations and understanding of vector spaces in linear algebra.
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Homework Statement



Find the basis for the subspaces of R3 and R4 below.

Homework Equations



A) All vectors of the form (a,b,c), where a=0
B) All vectors of the form (a+c, a-b, b+c, -a+b)
C) All vectors of the form (a,b,c), where a-b+5c=0

The Attempt at a Solution



I honestly had no idea what I was doing. I just scratched what I could make of it down. I'm going to do more research online but I'm terrified of the time limit coming up so I thought I'd post my work here meanwhile. I hope you all don't mind!
Here's what I got (don't laugh please!):

A) {(0,1,1),(1,1,0)}
B) {(0,-1,0,1),(1,0,-1,0)}
C) {(5,0,1),(1,0,5)}

-Carmen :eek:
 
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Carmen12 said:

Homework Statement



Find the basis for the subspaces of R3 and R4 below.

Homework Equations



A) All vectors of the form (a,b,c), where a=0

A) {(0,1,1),(1,1,0)}

-Carmen :eek:

start with A)
(a,b,c), where a=0 means

(0,b,c) for any b or c...

your first vector is in the set, but your 2nd has a = 1 so is not

it may help to picture it geometrically in which case it is the yz plane
 
A) Basis spans your subspace. So your answer indicates, for example that,

<br /> \left[ \begin{array}{cccc}0 &amp; 1 \\ 1 &amp; 1 \\ 1 &amp; 0 \end{array} \right] x = \left[ \begin{array}{cccc}0 \\ 2 \\ 5 \end{array} \right]<br />

should have a solution, but under ur basis, this eqn has no solution. so ur basis cannot span this subspace

Now if we use

<br /> \left[ \begin{array}{cccc}0 &amp; 0 \\ 1 &amp; 0 \\ 0 &amp; 1 \end{array} \right] x = \left[ \begin{array}{cccc}0 \\ a \\ b \end{array} \right]<br />

this guy has a solution for all a, b. Now you have to show this is independent. Do this by showing<br /> \left[ \begin{array}{cccc}0 &amp; 0 \\ 1 &amp; 0 \\ 0 &amp; 1 \end{array} \right] x = \left[ \begin{array}{cccc}0 \\ 0 \\ 0 \end{array} \right]<br />

has only the trivial soln. which it does.
 
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