Are non-perturbative methods in physics limited to quantum physics?

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The discussion revolves around the applicability of non-perturbative methods in physics, specifically questioning whether these methods are limited to quantum physics or if they can also be relevant in classical physics contexts. Participants explore various theoretical frameworks and examples, including quantum field theory, general relativity, and classical systems.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants note the critical role of non-perturbative methods in quantum field theory, particularly in quantum chromodynamics (QCD) and quantum electrodynamics.
  • One participant expresses uncertainty about the existence of non-perturbative solutions in classical physics and seeks clarity on this issue.
  • Another participant suggests that criticality of second phase transitions in statistical physics may provide insight into non-perturbative phenomena.
  • It is mentioned that classical non-perturbative solutions exist, with references to topological solutions such as solitons, instantons, and magnetic monopoles found in quantum field theory literature.
  • Examples from general relativity, including the Schwarzschild, Reissner-Nordström, and Kerr solutions, are cited as classical instances of non-perturbative solutions.
  • A participant references a paper discussing nonperturbative stabilization of rogue waves in the context of water waves, indicating potential applications outside traditional quantum frameworks.
  • Another participant highlights the extensive work on completely integrable systems, suggesting their relevance to non-perturbative methods in physics.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the applicability of non-perturbative methods in classical physics, with some asserting their existence and others questioning it. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the extent and nature of non-perturbative solutions in classical contexts.

Contextual Notes

Participants acknowledge the complexity of defining non-perturbative solutions and the potential limitations of their applicability across different physical theories. There is an emphasis on the need for further exploration and clarification in this area.

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Non-perturbative methods are critical is some parts of quantum physics, but it isn't clear to me if they are ever present in classical physics.
Non-perturbative methods are critical in parts of quantum field theory, such as QCD, and have at least some applications in quantum electrodynamics. You can also have mathematical problems that don't have perturbative solutions.

But, it isn't clear to me if classical physics can ever have non-perturbative solutions, and I'm not sure how to find an answer.

In particular, I'm interested in whether non-perturbative effects can be present in general relativity, or if, in the area of gravity, that are necessarily confined to quantum gravity theories.
 
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ohwilleke said:
But, it isn't clear to me if classical physics can ever have non-perturbative solutions, and I'm not sure how to find an answer.
Of course. For example, many QFT books have chapters on topological solutions such as solitons, instantons and magnetic monopoles, which are classical non-perturbative solutions.
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In particular, I'm interested in whether non-perturbative effects can be present in general relativity
Of course. The classic examples are Schwarzschild, Reissner-Nordstrom and Kerr solution.
 
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ohwilleke said:
it isn't clear to me if classical physics can ever have non-perturbative solutions
There is a huge amount of work on completely integrable systems. Many of them are related to problems of physics.
 

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