Are particles diffraction patterns?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the concept of whether particles can be understood as diffraction patterns, exploring the implications of such a view on the nature of particle interactions and energy distribution in space. The scope includes theoretical interpretations, potential models, and the relationship between quantum mechanics and general relativity.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Conceptual clarification, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants propose that interactions between particles constrain their wave-like properties, leading to the formation of diffraction patterns that can further interact and create new patterns.
  • One participant suggests that the energy of particles can be viewed as modulated waves that interact within a defined region of space, influenced by the speed of light and energy conservation.
  • Another viewpoint describes localized regions as resonant cavities that only resonate with sufficient energy, leading to the emission of modulated waves that interfere to form new diffraction patterns.
  • A participant expresses a desire for a model that intuitively integrates both gravity and particle interactions, suggesting a mathematical approach similar to wave front tracing models used in geologic imaging.
  • Concerns are raised about the feasibility of applying such models to high-speed particles and complex systems involving multiple particles.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not appear to reach a consensus, as multiple competing views and interpretations of particle behavior and interactions are presented without resolution.

Contextual Notes

Some limitations include the dependence on specific definitions of energy and diffraction patterns, as well as unresolved mathematical steps in proposed models.

Who May Find This Useful

Readers interested in theoretical physics, quantum mechanics, and models of particle interactions may find the discussion relevant.

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It seems like an interaction constrains the wave and creates a diffraction pattern that spreads through space and the rings of the diffraction pattern can likewise be constrained and create their own diffraction patterns.
 
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please, expand on this idea. why do you think that?
 
jfy4 said:
please, expand on this idea. why do you think that?

I think that when particles interact, their respective diffraction patterns of modulated energy are interacting with each other throughout a region of space determined by the speed of light since the last interaction for each particle.
If energy is conserved and the particles can exist, then the portions of the diffraction pattern within the region of interaction can form new diffraction patterns spreading out from their respective locations, with photons representing any energy transfer necesary to push all of the combined energy into two very small locations for a moment, which then form diffractions patterns of the appropriate type of modulated energy.


I think that each small location of space is kind of like a resonant cavity, but it will only resonate if there is sufficent energy of the specific type (the energy of the diffraction pattern is like a modulated wave packet where each type of basic particle corresponds to a unique type of oscillation) within a localized region and the resonance occurs in a very brief period of time and in a small region of three space. Modulated waves emit from ther surface of the small region and interfere with each other to form a new diffraction pattern.

Although it's really more like a four dimensional elastic fluid medium made of the combined energy density of all of the diffraction patterns at that spot, where the medium has distict types of waves that resonate in the r dimension perpendicular to three space and where resonance will only occur if there is enough energy within an interaction zone to cause the specific type of resonance and where energy can couple between diffraction patterns of the same type to constrain the energy to a location. Also, the energy can transfer from one type of wave to another type when the resonant pulse occurs. Each part of the diffraction pattern contains same ratio wave types as in the pulse.
 
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an interesting interpretation. What is beneficial about this interpretation that you would want to consider particles in this manner. does this improve on the current interpretation? Does it open new doors and perhaps make certain physics more simple or elegant?
 
I'd like to have model that gives me an intuitive understanding of the universe and its contents and that works for both gravity and particle interactions.

Both general relatiity and quantum mechanics indicate to me that a particle's energy extends out from it's location, so I wanted a model that incorporated that idea.

Anyway, I was thinking about trying to create a mathematical similar to the wave front tracing models used for acoustic waves in geologic imaging. I could create a relativistic mesh where each cell has the appropriate rate of time and stretchiness of space and then piecewise solve the schroedinger equation in each cell. However, I don't quite see how to make it work for high speed particles or for many particles.

It is just an idea I had about how to structure a model that helps with those issues and that is still intuitve. However, I don't know if I can make it work.
 

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