Are photons entangled with a component of the atom that emitted them?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the entanglement of photons with the components of the atom that emitted them, particularly focusing on the implications of manipulating the atom after photon emission and how it affects the photon’s properties, such as wavelength.

Discussion Character

  • Debate/contested, Conceptual clarification, Exploratory

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants propose that photons emitted from an atom are generally entangled with the atom until one of them interacts with something else, which breaks the entanglement.
  • Others argue that manipulating the atom after the photon has been emitted does not affect the photon’s properties, as entanglement does not imply causal influence in that direction.
  • A participant outlines two scenarios regarding measurement: measuring the photon first breaks the entanglement, while interacting with the atom first also breaks the entanglement before measuring the photon.
  • One participant acknowledges a misunderstanding of quantum theory and expresses gratitude for the clarification provided by another participant.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that photons and atoms can be entangled, but there is disagreement on the implications of manipulating the atom after photon emission and how it affects the photon’s properties.

Contextual Notes

The discussion includes assumptions about the nature of entanglement and measurement in quantum mechanics, which may not be fully explored or defined by all participants.

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If an atom were made to release a Photon, then a number of the components of the atoms nucleus were theoretically extremely quickly removed. would the previously emitted photon change wave length?
If an atom were made to release a Photon, then a number of the components of the atoms nucleus were theoretically extremely quickly removed. would the previously emitted photon change wave length?
 
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@Matthew-Champion The answer to the question in the title is yes. Generally the particles coming out of an interaction are entangled in some way at least until one of them interacts with something else (and note that a measurement is always a case of “interacts with something else”).

However, that “yes” answer does not imply what you’re asking in the body because entanglement doesn’t work the way you’re thinking. Changing one part of an entangled system (in this case, manipulating the atom after the emission) has no causal effect on the other parts of the system (in this case, the emitted photon).

There are two possibilities here. One is that we measure the wavelength (energy, frequency, they’re all related) of the photon first. This interaction breaks the entanglement so nothing we do to the atom later changes the photon energy from the value we’ve measured. The other possibility is that we interact with the atom first, breaking the entanglement, and then we measure the wavelength of the photon. Either way, we get one measurement of the photon and its wavelength is what we measure.
 
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Your question may be the result of misunderstanding quantum theory. Although, I see @Nugatory has made some sense of it.
 
Nugatory said:
@Matthew-Champion The answer to the question in the title is yes. Generally the particles coming out of an interaction are entangled in some way at least until one of them interacts with something else (and note that a measurement is always a case of “interacts with something else”).

However, that “yes” answer does not imply what you’re asking in the body because entanglement doesn’t work the way you’re thinking. Changing one part of an entangled system (in this case, manipulating the atom after the emission) has no causal effect on the other parts of the system (in this case, the emitted photon).

There are two possibilities here. One is that we measure the wavelength (energy, frequency, they’re all related) of the photon first. This interaction breaks the entanglement so nothing we do to the atom later changes the photon energy from the value we’ve measured. The other possibility is that we interact with the atom first, breaking the entanglement, and then we measure the wavelength of the photon. Either way, we get one measurement of the photon and its wavelength is what we measure.
Thank you for your reply. yes I see where I went wrong. I got all exited before thinking properly. oh well thank you for the concise answer.
 

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