Are Soldiers with PTSD Being Wrongfully Discharged?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers on the treatment of soldiers with PTSD in the Army, particularly regarding their discharge under the classification of "personality disorder" and the implications this has for their access to benefits. Participants explore the systemic issues surrounding mental health support for veterans, the potential misdiagnosis of PTSD, and the historical context of similar issues like "Gulf War Syndrome." The scope includes personal experiences, critiques of military policy, and reflections on the broader societal implications.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants express concern that soldiers are being discharged for PTSD under the guise of a "personality disorder," which denies them access to VA benefits.
  • There is a perception that this practice is a systemic issue, with accusations of intentional misdiagnosis and neglect by military officials.
  • Participants highlight the psychological impact of combat experiences on soldiers, suggesting that all service members are affected to some degree, regardless of direct combat engagement.
  • Some contributors reference historical parallels, such as "Gulf War Syndrome," to illustrate ongoing challenges in addressing mental health within the military.
  • Major General Blackledge's promotion after receiving treatment for PTSD is noted as a significant development, indicating potential shifts in military attitudes toward mental health.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that there are serious issues regarding the treatment of soldiers with PTSD, but multiple competing views remain regarding the causes and implications of these discharges. The discussion does not reach a consensus on the best way to address these issues.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include a lack of detailed evidence supporting claims of intentional misdiagnosis and the dependence on personal anecdotes, which may not represent the broader experience of all soldiers. The discussion also reflects ongoing cultural attitudes toward mental health in the military, which may influence the treatment of PTSD.

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Many soldiers who are being treated by the Army for PTSD are now routinely being discharged without benefits. The soldiers are given a discharge due to a supposed, "personality disorder" ,even though they have completed one or more tours in Iraq. This type of discharge leaves them with no VA medical benefits. Video included in link.

http://abcnews.go.com/WNT/WoodruffReports/

http://abcnews.go.com/WN/WoodruffReports/story?id=3368726&page=1

I see a catch 22 in all of this. Soldiers are encouraged to ask for help with PTSD, when they do many are discharged with no benefits.

Edit: It would appear that many of the Misdiagnosed cases and discharges were intentional.

Fort Carson soldiers have accused Army officials of everything from deploying them to Iraq with brain injuries to punishing them for behavior related to their combat injuries.

The soldiers also say that after Veterans for America asked for an investigation by the Army inspector general, no one from the IG’s office talked to them before submitting a report that essentially said no problems had been found.

http://www.veteransforamerica.org/ArticleID/9639
 
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Many soldiers who are being treated by the Army for PTSD are now routinely being discharged without benefits. The soldiers are given a discharge due to a supposed, "personality disorder"
If that is true, then it is an insult and a slap in the face of US troops by the Bush administration.

I have never met anyone who wasn't affected by direct combat experience, and that includes going on patrol where one doesn't necessarily fire a gun, but one faces the potential of being shot and wounded or killed. Police personnel on the streets face similar stress.

Those back in Washington in their comfy offices far away would be loathe to put themselves in harm's way.
 
edward said:
Many soldiers who are being treated by the Army for PTSD are now routinely being discharged without benefits. The soldiers are given a discharge due to a supposed, "personality disorder" ,even though they have completed one or more tours in Iraq. This type of discharge leaves them with no VA medical benefits. Video included in link.

http://abcnews.go.com/WNT/WoodruffReports/

http://abcnews.go.com/WN/WoodruffReports/story?id=3368726&page=1

I see a catch 22 in all of this. Soldiers are encouraged to ask for help with PTSD, when they do many are discharged with no benefits.

Edit: It would appear that many of the Misdiagnosed cases and discharges were intentional.

An old post, but that's because it's a problem that slides along under the radar and because it takes a long time for things to change. (You saw the same thing with "Gulf War Syndrome" after the first Gulf War).

Things have slowly changed and they probably just took another shift: http://www2.tbo.com/content/2008/nov/08/general-bucks-culture-silence-mental-health/life/

Major General Blackledge was one of the speakers at the http://www.af.mil/news/story.asp?id=123125653 held at the Defense Centers of Excellence for Psychological Health and Traumatic Brain Injury.

Blackledge was a Brigadier General serving as part of the military civil affairs portion of the Coalition Provisional Authority in Iraq. They focused on small civil engineering projects such as getting electrical power for hospitals, etc. The fact that he was promoted to Maj Gen after receiving psychiatric treatment for PTSD is pretty significant.
 
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An old post, but that's because it's a problem that slides along under the radar and because it takes a long time for things to change. (You saw the same thing with "Gulf War Syndrome" after the first Gulf War).

Things have slowly changed and they probably just took another shift: http://www2.tbo.com/content/2008/nov/08/general-bucks-culture-silence-mental-health/life/

Major General Blackledge was one of the speakers at the http://www.af.mil/news/story.asp?id=123125653 held at the Defense Centers of Excellence for Psychological Health and Traumatic Brain Injury.

Blackledge was a Brigadier General serving as part of the military civil affairs portion of the Coalition Provisional Authority in Iraq. They focused on small civil engineering projects such as getting electrical power for hospitals, etc. The fact that he was promoted to Maj Gen after receiving psychiatric treatment for PTSD is pretty significant.

article says he was following protocol. of course, he passed PTSD training with flying colors and is a model for other soldiers.
 
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