Are There Any Pairs (P,Q) With All Composite Integers Modulo Q?

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The discussion revolves around the question of whether there exist pairs of relatively prime integers (P, Q) such that all positive integers that are congruent to P modulo Q are composite. The inquiry touches on concepts from number theory, particularly the distribution of prime numbers and the implications of Dirichlet's Theorem.

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  • ACG proposes the question of whether there are pairs (P, Q) such that all integers congruent to P modulo Q are composite, noting examples that do not satisfy this condition.
  • One participant asserts that it does not happen, referencing Dirichlet's Theorem, which states that for any two relatively prime integers, there are infinitely many primes in the arithmetic sequence defined by those integers.
  • Another participant clarifies that while Dirichlet's Theorem guarantees an infinite number of primes in the series, it does not imply that every term in the series is prime, using an example to illustrate that some terms can be composite.
  • A further response emphasizes that since ACG is asking about all terms being composite, the existence of even one prime in the series is sufficient to counter the original question.

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Participants express differing views on the original question, with some asserting that it is impossible for all integers congruent to P modulo Q to be composite, while others explore the implications of Dirichlet's Theorem and the nature of composite numbers. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the existence of such pairs (P, Q).

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The discussion highlights the complexity of the relationship between prime and composite numbers in modular arithmetic, with references to specific examples and theorems that may not fully address the nuances of the original question.

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Hi! I was thinking about primes and have a bit of a question. I apologize if this is too easy or obvious -- I haven't thought much about it.

Take two relatively prime numbers, P and Q. P < Q, and P is not prime.

How many pairs (P,Q) are there so that ALL positive integers which are P modulo Q are composite? I couldn't think of any. For instance,

(6,11)

won't work because 17 is prime.

(8, 11) will choke on 19, and (8, 13) will choke on 47.

I know primes become much rarer when you get further up the number line. But do they get rare enough at some point for this to happen? I would suspect not, but I'm curious if there's a proof.

Thanks in advance,

ACG
 
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ACG:I know primes become much rarer when you get further up the number line. But do they get rare enough at some point for this to happen? I would suspect not, but I'm curious if there's a proof.


No, it does not happen. There is something called Dirichlet's Theorem. Given an two relatively prime integers, (a,b)=1, the arithmetical series a+b, a+2b, a+3b...contains an infinite number of primes.
 
robert Ihnot said:
ACG:I know primes become much rarer when you get further up the number line. But do they get rare enough at some point for this to happen? I would suspect not, but I'm curious if there's a proof.


No, it does not happen. There is something called Dirichlet's Theorem. Given an two relatively prime integers, (a,b)=1, the arithmetical series a+b, a+2b, a+3b...contains an infinite number of primes.

That series may contain an infinite number of primes, but that does not say that each term in that series is a prime. Consider a=4 and b=9, a+4b has a factor of 4 and hence is not prime.

To the original poster what do you mean by rare enough? For every natural number n you can find a sequence of n consecutive compositie numbers.
 
d_leet said:
That series may contain an infinite number of primes, but that does not say that each term in that series is a prime. Consider a=4 and b=9, a+4b has a factor of 4 and hence is not prime.

But ACG wasn't looking for each term being prime. He was looking for each term being composite, so one prime is enough to shatter that idea. Since every such series contains at least one prime (an infinite amount), that answers his question thoroughly.
 

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