Are There Multiple Big Bangs?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the concept of the Big Bang and whether there could be multiple Big Bangs or universes. Participants explore philosophical implications, scientific evidence, and various theories related to the origins of the universe, including the multiverse hypothesis and cyclical models like the "big bounce." The conversation encompasses both theoretical and philosophical perspectives.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Debate/contested
  • Philosophical clarification

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants question why there is only one Big Bang, suggesting the possibility of multiple Big Bangs or universes existing simultaneously.
  • One participant emphasizes the lack of evidence for more than one Big Bang, stating that scientific acceptance relies on evidence.
  • Another participant distinguishes between the multiverse theory and cyclical models like the "big bounce," indicating that they address different aspects of cosmology.
  • A participant notes that discussions about the Big Bang often enter philosophical territory, especially when addressing untestable scenarios.
  • Concerns are raised about the reliability of claims regarding the Big Bang and the importance of grounding discussions in research and evidence.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the existence of multiple Big Bangs, with some advocating for the idea while others emphasize the lack of supporting evidence. The discussion remains unresolved, with multiple competing perspectives presented.

Contextual Notes

Participants acknowledge the limitations of current understanding regarding the origins of the universe and the speculative nature of some claims. There is a recognition that ongoing research may provide more insights, but definitive answers are not currently available.

Nenad G.
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... hi everyone ... ... I'm here by pure "accident", ... I was just searching the net using the question - Why one Big Bang ? ... and found discussion about this in here ( I forgot where it was and I had no time to search, so ... ) ... ... >>> I'm a member of FC philosophy forum and back there one of the members started a thread called [ The Big Bang ] ... ... ... the discussion is still "alive" and it's nothing more but another battle between ( us ) atheists and theists ... God did the job? ... did not? ... bla bla bla , ... ... however, God or not, it's about BB ... so, I'm a little suspicious about ...

Nenad said:
... I have a question for you frish and for others too, ... why one BB? ... everybody is talking about BB like that's all there is ... mean, beyond it, or to say beyond our universe we have no idea what's going on but, ... what do you think - can it be that
there are other BBs ( universes ) ... like not just one but a number of them ... ... right next to our ... I don't know, when you look our universe it's all about plural - for example, our galaxy isn't alone, there are others as well, ... so it's about galaxies not galaxy, ... planets, ... stars ... black holes, ... atoms, ... BBs? ... which together "build" some - thing ... and so on and on ...

... even if it isn't that way it's more likely that BB is nothing but a small "irrelevant" event in the *existence*... making so much noise about it when it's probably, I mean really probably a grain of sand on the beach ...

... so I believe that before the ( our ) BB ... is just what it is - before the BB ... the rest of the reality was there ... always is ... ...

... you definitely had the same thread/s here ... ... anyway, ... I'd like to hear your opinions ...
 
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... just to say I'm in pass here ... I won't be long ...
 
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... I see you have philosophy at general discussion ... maybe I will spend some time here afteral since I'm a philosopher and a good one, ... philosophical issues are my "only" interest ...
 
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"Why only one BB"? Because there isn't evidence (AFAIK) for more than one. Anything outside of evidence enters outside the realm of what is accepted in science. If there was evidence, then the idea would gain acceptance.

Nevertheless, the hypothesis of multiple universes is not new in physics. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multiverse, for example.
 
nicksauce said:
"Why only one BB"? Because there isn't evidence (AFAIK) for more than one. Anything outside of evidence enters outside the realm of what is accepted in science. If there was evidence, then the idea would gain acceptance.

Nevertheless, the hypothesis of multiple universes is not new in physics. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multiverse, for example.

Yes but "multiverses" is a different theory from others such as "big bounce" which more specifically theorise about our own universe having bb cycles.

"multiverses" were originally designed to be an explanation for the biophillic tuning of our universe.
 
When I first saw this post I thought it was for Big Brother.

Nenad G. said:
... I see you have philosophy at general discussion ... maybe I will spend some time here afteral since I'm a philosopher and a good one, ... philosophical issues are my "only" interest ...

So you're a self confessed "good philosopher". Does that mean you can't find an answer to anything, or that you have an answer for everything?

Broadly speaking, discussion of the big bang enters into philosophy when questions regarding untestable scenarios are raised. That isn't to say the same isn't done by scientists, but scientists will get nowhere if they don't produce some refutable claims or evidence of a theory's sucess/falsification. Regarding your opening post you ask questions that basically have no accertainable answer, but can only be discussed on grounds of plausability. In this context I would have to err on the side of the concept of a multiverse, but I would ascribe no weight to this preference as it's based on an incomplete and/or deluded understanding
 
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Nenad G. said:
... hi everyone ... ... I'm here by pure "accident", ... I was just searching the net using the question - Why one Big Bang ? ... and found discussion about this in here ( I forgot where it was and I had no time to search, so ... ) ... ... >>> I'm a member of FC philosophy forum and back there one of the members started a thread called [ The Big Bang ] ... ... ... the discussion is still "alive" and it's nothing more but another battle between ( us ) atheists and theists ... God did the job? ... did not? ... bla bla bla , ... ... however, God or not, it's about BB ... so, I'm a little suspicious about ...



... you definitely had the same thread/s here ... ... anyway, ... I'd like to hear your opinions ...

Hi there Nenad G and welcome,

The question of what/if anything proceeded the big bang event, is not one of philosophy. I would not be so quick to jump on a bandwagon without doing some serious research. Head over to the Cosmology Forum or search through some old post. You can also start here: http://arxiv.org/"

Use the search function and look for the more recent articles on the Standard Model of cosmology or just big band theory.

If you want to jump right into a more technical discussion of how we are currently attempting to answer this question search Quantum Cosmology and look for articles dated 2005+.

If you have some cash, consider purchasing this promising book: https://www.amazon.com/dp/3540714227/?tag=pfamazon01-20

Keep in mind Nenad G, We currently do not know the answer. Be cautious of anyone who claims other wise. But that is not to say that there is no research being done. Much of this is promising with better observational evidence, but you must take these propositions with a grain of salt.
 
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