Are There Physics Programs for Complex Calculations?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the existence and functionality of physics programs for complex calculations, exploring the role of computational tools in physics and the necessity of lab attire for physicists during experiments.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that physics can be complex and may require programs to assist with calculations beyond what a scientific calculator can handle.
  • There is a mention of specific computational programs like FEM packages, including Comsol, which are used for various modeling tasks in physics.
  • Participants express uncertainty about the availability of programs that can input a physics problem and output a solution, with one participant stating that such tasks are typically performed by physicists themselves.
  • Some participants highlight the importance of lab coats in experimental settings, noting that they serve practical purposes such as protecting clothing from contamination or keeping sensitive equipment clean.
  • There is a humorous exchange regarding the attire of physicists, including lab coats and bowties, reflecting a light-hearted aspect of the discussion.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the existence of comprehensive physics programs for calculations, with some asserting that such programs exist while others remain skeptical. The discussion about lab attire also reflects differing opinions on necessity and personal choice.

Contextual Notes

Some claims about the complexity of calculations and the types of programs available depend on specific definitions and contexts, which remain unresolved in the discussion.

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You know that Physics can be pretty complex with Math. Picturing a fellow doing it all by hand is quite hard. SO I imagine they've got some Physics programs where a scientest can enter their infor ,the chip does funny tricks and they come out with results.

They computer could probrably do almost the same thing as a scientiific calculator but it shoudl be able to handle more tricks or functions. Graphs and illustrations out to be as well.

BTW I'm picturing a physicist with a labcoast on doing experiments and going over to his/her computer and entering the results.DOes a physicist really need to have a labcoat on?
 
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DOes a physicist really need to have a labcoat on?

Yes, with a bowtie.
 
like this?

http://animatedtv.about.com/library/graphics/frink.jpg

There is no program that I know of where you can input a physics problem and get a solution, that's what a physicist is for. Maybe explain your question a bit better, its a bit vague. :-)

For complex math : http://www.maplesoft.com/
 
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cyrusabdollahi said:
Yes, with a bowtie.
Some do. :smile:

We had to wear lab coats when we worked in the lab, primarily because we worked with radioactive sources and it was better to have any contamination on the lab coat rather than one's own clothes.

As for doing experiments, probably in some cases, physics are tinkering with mechanical systems which may involve grease or lubricant, or welding, or chemicals, or working fluids, or electrical systems, which might involve soldering, so one would wear a lab coat to keep one's clothes clean.

Also, if one is using sensitive equipment, e.g. microelectronics, one might wear a clean suit to keep dust/particulates to a minimum.


As for calculations or programs, some can be very simple and performed on a calculator, while others can be exceedingly complex involving hundreds or thousands of lines of code (e.g. Finite Element Methods/Multiphysics Codes). Look at the statistical packages and what is involved.
 
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Hmm, so there are Physics prohrams?
 
Nuklear said:
Hmm, so there are Physics prohrams?

As in computational programs? Most are probably proprietary.

There are FEM packages like Comsol - http://www.comsol.com/ - and others.

It used to be FEMLAB, and they keep upgrading/expanding it.

I think if one checks the forums, one will find some discussion of physics codes. There are codes for modeling stars and stellar physics, codes for modeling galaxies, codes for modeling collections of galaxies, and in the other direction of scale, codes modeling atomic interactions/bonding, molecular engineering, microstructures, nanostructures, quarks and leptons . . . . . virtually any physical (including chemical) interaction that is conceivable.
 
I'd expet there to be programs, I couldn't do it all by hand. And there are some functions you can't find on a calculator.
 
Nuklear said:
DOes a physicist really need to have a labcoat on?

its a choice between either that or a little black top hat
 

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