Are these A Level options suitable for what I want to do?

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The discussion revolves around the suitability of A Level subject choices for a prospective university student aiming to study Theoretical Physics. Participants explore the implications of adding another subject to the existing choices of Physics, Maths, and Further Maths, considering factors such as university admissions and personal interests.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest adding another subject like Chemistry or Computer Studies for variety and potential university preferences.
  • Others argue that three A Levels, especially with Further Maths included, are sufficient and not considered a "light load" by UK universities.
  • There are differing views on whether additional subjects will enhance a university application, with some believing they may not significantly impact admissions decisions.
  • One participant mentions that computers are essential in Theoretical Physics for numerical calculations and simulations, though their own experience is limited.
  • Concerns are raised about the perceived ease of the A Level system and the effectiveness of preparation methods, particularly regarding the use of past papers.
  • There is a suggestion that if a fourth A Level becomes too challenging, it could be dropped, but this depends on individual circumstances.
  • A hypothetical scenario is presented about university admissions based on A Level grades, questioning whether having an additional subject would influence selection between two equally qualified candidates.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express mixed views on the necessity and impact of adding another A Level subject. While some advocate for diversification, others maintain that the current selection is adequate. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the weight of additional subjects in university admissions.

Contextual Notes

Participants reference different educational systems (UK vs. US) and their respective approaches to university admissions, which may influence their perspectives on A Level choices. There are also mentions of personal experiences that may not reflect current standards or practices.

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I'm doing Physics, Maths and Further Maths for A Levels. I'm planning on doing Theoretical Physics in University. I had A* in Maths and A in Physics for GCSE's. I'm wondering if I should choose another subject? If so, what?
 
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I would advise you to add another subject just for the sake of getting something different in. Physics, Math, Further Math and say, Economics or maybe Computer Studies, or maybe Chemistry would be a decent combination.

Also, excellent username \m/
 
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Thanks for answering :D What would be the advantages of doing another subject? If so, I'd do Chemistry. Megadeth are AMAZING! :P Oh yeah! I know a little about Theoretical Physics but what are computers used for in the area?
 
MegaDeth said:
Thanks for answering :D What would be the advantages of doing another subject? If so, I'd do Chemistry. Megadeth are AMAZING! :P Oh yeah! I know a little about Theoretical Physics but what are computers used for in the area?

Well you aren't going to get another chance to learn a subject outside of your field when you enter college, since you're in the UK I presume, so it might be something different and a nice change. Another reason to add another subject would be that some universities might consider only 3 subjects a "light load", however that may not be a problem since Further Math is one of those 3 subjects. Also, I don't think universities are going to care much about subjects other then Math, Physics and Further Math.

As for Computers, I'm only an undergrad myself, but there are a lot of calculations which need to be done in Theoretical Physics, and not all of them can be done by hand, so computers are used to solve say, things like Partial Differential Equations numerically. They're also used for simulations, among other things.

Haha Megadeth is my favorite band :D
 
ahsanxr said:
Another reason to add another subject would be that some universities might consider only 3 subjects a "light load", however that may not be a problem since Further Math is one of those 3 subjects.

Three A levels is pretty much standard, and is certainly not seen to be a light load. All universities have entry tariffs consisting of 3 grades.

As for the OP, I think you've chosen the most suitable A levels for your choice of degree.
 
cristo said:
Three A levels is pretty much standard, and is certainly not seen to be a light load. All universities have entry tariffs consisting of 3 grades.

As for the OP, I think you've chosen the most suitable A levels for your choice of degree.

I guess I was looking at it from the US universities admission perspective, where the heavier your load is, the better it looks. Secondly, I personally think that 3 subjects wouldn't be much of a challenge. I did 4 (including Further Math), and still had loads of time to waste. Others do even more.
 
ahsanxr said:
I guess I was looking at it from the US universities admission perspective, where the heavier your load is, the better it looks.

That doesn't really make much sense to me. But no, in the UK, you will be applying to a university who give you an offer of, say, AAB; if you meet this you get accepted. Other A levels don't really get taken into account.

Secondly, I personally think that 3 subjects wouldn't be much of a challenge. I did 4 (including Further Math), and still had loads of time to waste. Others do even more.

When I did three A levels I certainly didn't feel unchallenged. I think I had a day a week with no classes, in total, which I tended to spend doing homework. Ok, so it's not a 12 hour day, 7 days a week schedule, but you're 17-18 years old and there's a lot more to life than studying at that age!
 
cristo said:
That doesn't really make much sense to me. But no, in the UK, you will be applying to a university who give you an offer of, say, AAB; if you meet this you get accepted. Other A levels don't really get taken into account.

Well in the US, you have to prove that you were handling a heavy load. And I said the same thing that other A levels won't be taken account in my previous post.

When I did three A levels I certainly didn't feel unchallenged. I think I had a day a week with no classes, in total, which I tended to spend doing homework. Ok, so it's not a 12 hour day, 7 days a week schedule, but you're 17-18 years old and there's a lot more to life than studying at that age!

I personally feel that the A-level system has gotten very easy to crack as the examinations barely differ in structure. All you have to do to get an A or even an A* is to practice enough past papers, whether you properly understand the material or not. That said, Further Math is still quite challenging, but having the right guidance and books can help a lot. I basically prepared without using a book because I wasn't aware of all of my resources at that time (such as this forum) and our teacher kept insisting that we didn't need a book.
 
I think I'd agree with Cristo. Mine is a "non-academic", and "did my A-levels in the eighties" opinion, so things may have changed. I actually chose the same, Double Maths and Physics, and that was certainly enough to be working on. I'm sure my abilities are no way near in your league, so maybe a fourth A-level would be possible for you. I would suggest Computer Studies, as that may not tax you too much except for actually doing the work. I would only do it though, if it was actually going to be useful for you in the future other than having an extra A level to your name, which I do not know. If it wasn't, I'd stick to doing three.

EDIT: Forgot to add - I suppose you could take the fourth A level and just drop it if it becomes too much.
 
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cobalt124 said:
I think I'd agree with Cristo. Mine is a "non-academic", and "did my A-levels in the eighties" opinion, so things may have changed. I actually chose the same, Double Maths and Physics, and that was certainly enough to be working on. I'm sure my abilities are no way near in your league, so maybe a fourth A-level would be possible for you. I would suggest Computer Studies, as that may not tax you too much except for actually doing the work. I would only do it though, if it was actually going to be useful for you in the future other than having an extra A level to your name, which I do not know. If it wasn't, I'd stick to doing three.

I was thinking of doing computing but it's in the same option box as further maths. The only thing that I can really take that I'm good at it chemistry, but I probably won't do it now so I can just focus on doing really good in physics and double maths. Say there was one place left in Uni for Theoretical Physics,me and the other guy had the exact same grades in physics and double maths, but I had chemistry as well, will the University pick me over the other guy?
 
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MegaDeth said:
I was thinking of doing computing but it's in the same option box as further maths...

I hate it when that happens.

MegaDeth said:
The only thing that I can really take that I'm good at it chemistry, but I probably won't do it now so I can just focus on doing really good in physics and double maths.

My gut feeling is that that would be the correct choice, but I'll emphasize my limited knowledge of both your personal situation, and the A level system as it operates today.

MegaDeth said:
Say there was one place left in Uni for Theoretical Physics,me and the other guy had the exact same grades in physics and double maths, but I had chemistry as well, will the University pick me over the other guy?

My guess is no, taking Cristos example, if you are offered a place with AAB and you achieve AAB, I would be very upset if I wasn't given that place. Hopefully, there are many members on this forum in a better position to comment than me, who will chip in. (Hint guys, this is important!).
 
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MegaDeth said:
I was thinking of doing computing but it's in the same option box as further maths. The only thing that I can really take that I'm good at it chemistry, but I probably won't do it now so I can just focus on doing really good in physics and double maths. Say there was one place left in Uni for Theoretical Physics,me and the other guy had the exact same grades in physics and double maths, but I had chemistry as well, will the University pick me over the other guy?

UK universities usually make conditional offers with regard to your grades. You apply and they respond back saying for example, that you have to get an A*AA with the A* being in Maths, in order for you to get admitted. If you manage to get those grades, you'll get admitted. So if you're absolutely sure that you're going into Theoretical Physics, then there's no point in adding a fourth, unrelated subject. My personal opinion however is that one shouldn't specialize THAT much at least while you're in A-Levels. I went into A-Levels thinking I'd go into Accounting of some sort and had Economics, Accounting and Math as a subject combination. But just out of sheer interest I took up Further Math, even though it would have been useless if I went into Accounting. However it introduced me to a whole new world and now I'm pursuing a degree in Math and Physics as opposed to Accounting, like my original plan. As for 4 subjects being too much work, check this guy out for motivation :P

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ali_Moeen_Nawazish

Like I said before, I can imagine it being hard for you old-timers like cristo and cobalt124, but the A-Level system has gotten pretty easy to crack these days. I don't know whether its like that for every board, but it was for the CIE (Cambridge International Exams) exams.
 
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Just want to add, sometimes you can get offers for 4 subjects, e.g. A*A*AA. There are a quite a few colleges at Oxbridge that do this (their websites have a list of each college's usual offers for maths/physics).

Sometimes if they give you an offer of A*A*A and you end up getting A*A*A but that A was in one of the subjects you were told to get an A* in (like Maths), you can call them up and switch to another course, like Engineering. I heard of a girl who did that.
 

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