Are Uncontacted Tribes Influenced by External Cultures?

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The discussion revolves around the influence of external cultures on uncontacted tribes, particularly focusing on the Piraha tribe and their unique cultural characteristics. Participants explore various aspects of these tribes, including their perceptions of outsiders, the implications of contact, and the cognitive effects of language and culture.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants express surprise at the existence of uncontacted tribes and speculate on their perceptions of outsiders, suggesting that they may view outsiders as gods or predators.
  • There are references to the Piraha tribe, with discussions on their lack of abstract concepts and unique cultural traits, such as the absence of numbers and creation myths.
  • Participants question the implications of contact with uncontacted tribes, with some arguing for the need to protect them from outside influences while others suggest studying their habits from a distance.
  • Concerns are raised about the potential impact of diseases on uncontacted tribes, with discussions on the vulnerability of these populations to illnesses like smallpox and influenza.
  • Some participants discuss the relationship between language and thought, with references to how cultural constraints may influence cognitive processes, particularly in the context of the Piraha tribe.
  • There are humorous and light-hearted comments about throwing objects at the tribes, reflecting a mix of serious and playful tones in the discussion.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the influence of external cultures on uncontacted tribes. Multiple competing views are presented regarding the necessity of contact, the implications of cultural differences, and the cognitive effects of language.

Contextual Notes

Some statements reflect uncertainty about the nature of contact and its consequences, as well as the complexities of cultural influence on cognition. The discussion includes references to various sources and articles, which may not be universally accepted or verified.

Who May Find This Useful

Readers interested in anthropology, linguistics, cultural studies, and the dynamics of human interaction with isolated communities may find this discussion relevant.

  • #31
Evo said:
Trapped in a jungle, would you rather have an illiterate tribesman that knows the thousand important ways to survive or a PHD in English Literature? :-p
That's kind of what I was getting at—if some remote tribe in their history have ever needed to count to more than 20, and only have a word for "more than twenty," why does this mean it's their language's fault? The language evolved to their needs, not the other way around. Even if they are born equal, when their young brains are plastic and ready to learn, they are never introduced to concepts that don't exist there. Mathematics started because of the need to keep track of large numbers of things, like in economics and trade.
 
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but if 75% die as a result of contact?
as that is the record with these uncontacted tribes
they simply don't have immunity to far too many common diseases
''contaminating other cultures" is not just ideas or morals

too bad we can't just let them be
 
  • #35
Sorry, the serious discussion is fine and asks some good questions but


all I keep thinking about is N!xau and his coke bottle. too funny. :smile:
 
  • #36
Ok, back to the original topic of cultural influence on linguistics and vice versa.
 

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