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Pre-industrial era, co_2 has been considered as ~280 ppm. Current value is ~387 ppm.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greenhouse_gas.
Some projections are for co_2 to rise to ~540-970 ppm by 2100 (90 yrs away). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_warming. Upper range of 970 ppm would represent 2.5 x current value. Would this represent an accelerating curve? Are we increasingly accelerating through a transition zone,effectively in reverse, from 'Oligocene to Eocene' ? The Eocene to Oligocene transition 35 million years ago http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eocene has been estimated to occur at ~750 ppm of co_2. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eocene. http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/vaop/ncurrent/abs/nature08447.html. Paleocene-Eocene was a greenhouse time of probably essentially no ice on the planet. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paleocene–Eocene_Thermal_Maximum. For subsequent Oligocene one has cooling and onset of glaciation. If indeed the current upper limit projections of 970 ppm is reasonable, might one have commencemet of melting of East Antarctica in 100's of years, rather than thousands of years? With perhaps a lower limit of 100+ yrs before any significant melting of East Antarctica?
Total surface area of ice in all of Antarctica (east and west) is ~ 13,720,000 km^2, with average thickness of 1.6 km.; giving ice volume of 21,952,000 km^3. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anarctica.
Ocean surface area is 361,132,000 km^2 (70.8% of planet surface area). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oceans.
Volume_ice /S.A._ocean = h ; ~ 22 M km^3 /~361 M km^2 = .06 km. Thus for total melting of all of Antarctica, and even distribution over all oceans, one would have increased sea level rise of .06 km. 1 meter is 3.28 ft.1000 m.=3280 ft. So .06 x 3280= 199 ft sea level rise. But if West Antarctica's earlier contribution is ~11 ft (3-4 m.), then sea level rise from later process of East Antarctica complete melting, would be ~ 188 ft or 57 meters. 100 meters equaling 328 ft. Would prudence suggest entertaining and planning for a worse case scenario?
Paul N. Pearson, Gavin L. Foster, & Bridget S. Wade
Nature 13 September 2009
Atmospheric carbon dioxide through the Eocene–Oligocene climate transition
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greenhouse_gas.
Some projections are for co_2 to rise to ~540-970 ppm by 2100 (90 yrs away). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_warming. Upper range of 970 ppm would represent 2.5 x current value. Would this represent an accelerating curve? Are we increasingly accelerating through a transition zone,effectively in reverse, from 'Oligocene to Eocene' ? The Eocene to Oligocene transition 35 million years ago http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eocene has been estimated to occur at ~750 ppm of co_2. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eocene. http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/vaop/ncurrent/abs/nature08447.html. Paleocene-Eocene was a greenhouse time of probably essentially no ice on the planet. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paleocene–Eocene_Thermal_Maximum. For subsequent Oligocene one has cooling and onset of glaciation. If indeed the current upper limit projections of 970 ppm is reasonable, might one have commencemet of melting of East Antarctica in 100's of years, rather than thousands of years? With perhaps a lower limit of 100+ yrs before any significant melting of East Antarctica?
Total surface area of ice in all of Antarctica (east and west) is ~ 13,720,000 km^2, with average thickness of 1.6 km.; giving ice volume of 21,952,000 km^3. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anarctica.
Ocean surface area is 361,132,000 km^2 (70.8% of planet surface area). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oceans.
Volume_ice /S.A._ocean = h ; ~ 22 M km^3 /~361 M km^2 = .06 km. Thus for total melting of all of Antarctica, and even distribution over all oceans, one would have increased sea level rise of .06 km. 1 meter is 3.28 ft.1000 m.=3280 ft. So .06 x 3280= 199 ft sea level rise. But if West Antarctica's earlier contribution is ~11 ft (3-4 m.), then sea level rise from later process of East Antarctica complete melting, would be ~ 188 ft or 57 meters. 100 meters equaling 328 ft. Would prudence suggest entertaining and planning for a worse case scenario?
Paul N. Pearson, Gavin L. Foster, & Bridget S. Wade
Nature 13 September 2009
Atmospheric carbon dioxide through the Eocene–Oligocene climate transition
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