Are Women Really Always the Winners in Relationships?

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The discussion revolves around the dynamics of arguing in relationships, particularly between men and women. Participants express that while winning an argument may seem advantageous, it often leads to negative consequences in the relationship. Many emphasize the importance of mutual respect and learning from each other rather than focusing solely on winning or losing. Acknowledging different perspectives is highlighted as a key component of healthy communication. Some participants suggest that letting a partner "win" in trivial matters can maintain harmony, while standing firm on significant issues is necessary. The conversation also touches on the emotional aspects of arguments, with some noting that arguments can serve as a means of emotional exchange rather than mere conflict. Overall, the consensus leans towards valuing understanding and resolution over the need to be right.
  • #31
loseyourname said:
What does it mean to 'win?' To get what you want? If that is the case, all you need is learn to take control of your own desires and you will always win. I have to warn you - I've become expert at manipulating the female psyche to the point where the ladies never win (assuming we're truly in conflict and there must be a 'winner'), but all that gets me is five minutes of self-righteous satisfaction.

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  • #32
/sigh

to you doubters: sometimes when you win, you really loose, and one day when you're relishing your victory while sleeping on the couch after a nice dinner of crackers and koolaid you'll start to wonder if "winning" every time is truly worth the price.

Some women have the incorrect attitude that they are never wrong and will never admit they are wrong just because that would mean they are not perfect. Those are the types of women who will "make you pay for your insolence". I avoid those women on a personal level.

as someone pointed out earlier, women have egos too, and when you're a know it all, they become defensive and refuse to admit they are wrong even when they know they are wrong. You have to maintain a careful balance between cowering pathetic "yes man" and overbearing pompous self-righteous know it all

It's a fine line :biggrin:
 
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  • #33
I've had a problem with exs in that they get intimidated by my intelligence, not that I'm terribly intelligent really but it happens. The effect was that they would begin to feel insecure and think that I was trying to show them up or make them feel stupid which was never the case. Well... actually when a person, no matter who they are, starts to get personal I have the habit of throwing it right back at them. During my last relationship I learned to not do that so much. I had the foolish idea that if I were to treat a person in a mock version of the way they were treating me they would get the point. I still do it but not so much. At any rate that would really only happen after they were already angry with me. I still have no idea how to keep that from happening.

I remember I had a female friend who I had a big crush on in High School and we used to argue all the time. People thought we were about ready to go to blows sometimes but neither of us were ever actually mad at the other. I miss that.
Oh.. then there was the girl I asked out on a date and she suggested we play a game of chess. She wasn't very happy that I beat her every game and then she never talked to me again lol. But who wants to date someone like that anyway, male or female? I like women that get mad if you let them win personally.
 
  • #34
Lisa! said:
I hate it when men pretend you're always right and I hate it when they try to disagree with you just because you're female!
And, not the least, you absolutely loathe it when men are actually correct.. :biggrin:
 
  • #35
arildno said:
And, not the least, you absolutely loathe it when men are actually correct.. :biggrin:
:smile: :smile: I've no experience about that!
 
  • #36
Lisa! said:
:smile: :smile: I've no experience about that!

You are a beautiful, intelligent, kind, thoughtful lady Lisa.
 
  • #37
wolram said:
You are a beautiful, intelligent, kind, thoughtful lady Lisa.
You couldn't be right even in this case, because you've not met me! :wink:
 
  • #38
Actually, wolram is wrong on all accounts..





Runs and hides..
 
  • #39
arildno said:
Actually, wolram is wrong on all accounts..





Runs and hides..
How do you know he's wrong since you've not met me too?


By the way, why are you so timid? :wink:
 
  • #40
Lisa! said:
You couldn't be right even in this case
While your choice of words is a bit odd here, your flat-out denial of possessing the characteristics wolram accused you of having is unambiguous and irretractable..







Runs even faster..
 
  • #41
No chance for u guys...
 
  • #42
arildno said:
While your choice of words is a bit odd here, your flat-out denial of possessing the characteristics wolram accused you of having is unambiguous and irretractable..







Runs even faster..
It can't prove anything.You can't say someone is intelligent... because s/he can't speak En or other languages!

I have to go!So feel free to stick around here! :wink: o:)
 
  • #43
Lisa! said:
It can't prove anything.You can't say someone is intelligent... because s/he can't speak En or other languages!

I have to go!So feel free to stick around here! :wink: o:)

Did Lisa have the last word?
 
  • #44
Women are so cute when they pout after losing an argument/discussion. Da widduw bottom wip sticking out all sad and evwyting.

When guys lose and pout we're considered babies...supwithat?

I know its pathetic but, the bottom lip thing can get just about ANYTHING from me. :!) :redface:
 
  • #45
wolram said:
Did Lisa have the last word?
:wink: That depends why you're asking this question!Anyway I hope she'd be thoughtful!
 
  • #46
Zantra said:
to you doubters: sometimes when you win, you really loose, and one day when you're relishing your victory while sleeping on the couch after a nice dinner of crackers and koolaid you'll start to wonder if "winning" every time is truly worth the price.

Am I really the only iron-fisted dictator of relationships here? Sure, women have tried to make me sleep on the couch, but guess what? I'm much bigger than they are and I'm far more stubborn and not once have I actually left the bed. Everyone gives up eventually if you can only make them realize that they cannot win. Since a woman cannot physically force you to do anything, all she has is the power of her mind. You simply have to be stronger-willed than she is.

as someone pointed out earlier, women have egos too, and when you're a know it all, they become defensive and refuse to admit they are wrong even when they know they are wrong. You have to maintain a careful balance between cowering pathetic "yes man" and overbearing pompous self-righteous know it all

You just have to pick your fights. If it's something trivial that doesn't matter - like who is right in a petty argument - let her win, because that isn't a real loss anyway. Then when it comes to the more important conflicts, you put down your foot and stand resolute. There is a key to this; you cannot be fazed, by anything. Even if she threatens to break up, it won't matter if you always ensure that she needs you more than you need her - ideally, you don't need her at all and could have her replaced within a week. That takes away all of her leverage. She threatens to take away sex - again, she needs it more than you. If this isn't the case, make it the case! Drill it into your mind.
 

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