Are you the most righteous person on the planet

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the nature of truth and deception in personal relationships, exploring the circumstances under which individuals may choose to lie or tell the truth. It includes reflections on honesty, the implications of lying, and the subjective perceptions of truthfulness.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that telling white lies may be necessary to maintain peace in relationships, such as complimenting a partner's appearance.
  • Others argue that honesty is preferable, citing that maintaining deceptions can be difficult and problematic.
  • One participant questions the credibility of someone who claims to have never lied, proposing that a self-identified liar may be more trustworthy.
  • Another participant expresses that they lie only when discussing their own lying habits, indicating a complex relationship with truthfulness.
  • Several posts reflect on the idea that telling the truth can sometimes lead to more significant issues, suggesting a nuanced view of honesty.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of views on the necessity and implications of lying versus telling the truth, indicating that there is no clear consensus on the topic.

Contextual Notes

Some statements rely on personal experiences and subjective interpretations of truth and deception, which may vary widely among individuals.

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Or do you some times have to tell a porky pie (lie) even if it is just to keep the peace: darling how do like my hair,
oh it looks gorgeous darling, when you really think it looks awful.
Or any other white lie, to your boss, GF, spouse.
 
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Tell the truth to your allies and deceive your adversaries.
And if your wife asks how the meal is that she just fixed for you - you may have a choice between more bad meals or no meals at all.
 
Would you believe a person who claimed to have never lied? I would not.

Who would you find most truthful, one who claimed to tell the truth, one who claimed to lie, or one who claimed nothing at all?
 
I would believe the one who said he was a liar.:eek:
 
I am a liar. The notorious one.
 
I am predominantly a non-liar for completely selfish and amoral reasons: it's too hard to remember and maintain deceptions over time. It's just much easier to tell the truth. On the other hand, there are always times when telling the truth creates more problems than it solves under a given circumstance.
 
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zoobyshoe said:
I am predominantly a non-liar for completely selfish and amoral reasons: it's too hard to remember and maintain deceptions over time. It's just much easier to tell the truth. On the other hand, there are always times when telling the truth creates more problems than it solves under a given circumstance.
Zooby you are as straight as a razor blade until you get nicked:biggrin:
 
zoobyshoe said:
On the other hand, there are always times when telling the truth creates more problems than it solves under a given circumstance.
I agree with this.
Depeche Mode - Policy of Truth said:
Now you're standing there tongue tied
You'd better learn your lesson well
Hide what you have to hide
And tell what you have to tell
You'll see your problems multiplied
If you continually decide
To faithfully pursue
The policy of truth
Depeche mode - Policy of Truth
 
how can I be ? I'm married ... the wife is always "right" regardless of the facts :biggrin::-p
 
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:DD
 
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The only time I lie, is when I talk about how much I lie!
 

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