Area of Shaded Region: Solve without Year 9 Maths

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The discussion revolves around calculating the area of a shaded region within a geometric figure, specifically using methods that do not exceed Year 9 mathematics. Participants explore various approaches to find the intersection points and the area, while adhering to the constraints of the problem.

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  • Homework-related, Exploratory, Technical explanation, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • The original poster (OP) proposes using simultaneous equations to find the area but struggles with notation and the requirement to avoid advanced methods.
  • Some participants express confusion over the OP's notation "7/21/47," leading to different interpretations of the intersection point.
  • One participant clarifies the correct interpretation of the intersection point as (350/47, 70/47) and agrees with the OP's calculation.
  • Another participant mentions using the equations of straight lines to solve the problem, questioning the OP's reference to Year 7 or Year 9 methods.
  • A participant suggests using a method involving similar triangles to find the dimensions related to the intersection point without explicitly using the xy-plane.
  • Another participant shares their experience of solving the problem using coordinate geometry but finds the alternative method proposed to be more elegant and acceptable for Year 9 students.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the intersection point's coordinates but disagree on the methods used to calculate the area and the appropriateness of those methods for the specified educational level. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the best approach to solve the problem without exceeding Year 9 mathematics.

Contextual Notes

Participants express uncertainty about the notation and the methods allowed for solving the problem. There is a lack of consensus on the most suitable approach for a Year 7 student, and some methods proposed may still rely on concepts beyond the specified constraints.

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As shown in the picture, area of shaded region is required.

By setting formula on xy plane, the point of intersection can be deduced and hence calculated by 2 triangles and 1 square.

from my calculation, set left bottom corner as (0,0), then point of intersection is (7/21/47,1/23/47), and area of shaded region would be 4/37/47 cm^2 (4.7872 cm^2).

However, the question requires that no methods beyond year 9 are to be used.

I have tried mainly simultaneous equations mainly, adding subtracting etc and couldn't figure this out.

someone please help.well I'm not sure if this should be posted on homework section or other section, please do let me know if I'm making a mistake, thanks
 

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I'm sorry but I have absolutely no idea what "7/21/47" means! I could interpret it as either (7/21)/47 or 7/(21/47) but those are very different. In any case, I get
\left(\frac{350}{47}, \frac{70}{47}\right)
as the point to intersection.
 
i wrote "7/21/47", what i mean is 7 plus 21/47, like how you type in calculator, not sure what the correct notation for computer is.

anyhow, 530/47, 70/47 is exactly what i got too, same thing

but i can't do it without using xy plane. it's meant for year 7 student, olympic maths...
 
That's a very strange calculator!
7+ \frac{21}{47}= \frac{350}{47}
and
1+ \frac{23}{47}= \frac{70}{47}
just what I said so, yes, you have the correct point.

I'm not sure why your "year 7" (you said "year 9" before) is like but I just used the equations of straight lines.
 
well I'm a private tutor of a year 7 kid and his school teacher gave their class this challenge question and states that no advance method should be used.

i was thinking that some methods similar to those shown in these 2 pictures should be used...
 

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Well, this sort of uses the xy plane, but not in so many words:

Let the intersection point be distance h from the bottom of the square and distance w from the RHS.
Mark the points:
ABCD are the corners of the square, starting top right and going clockwise.
The angled lines are CG (G being the intersection with AB) and AH.
I is the point of intersection of CG, AH.
E is the point on AB nearest I
F is the point on BC nearest I
By similar trangles AEI, ABH:
w = (10-h)*3/10
and using CFI, CBG:
h = (10-w)*2/10
etc.
 
haruspex said:
Well, this sort of uses the xy plane, but not in so many words:

Let the intersection point be distance h from the bottom of the square and distance w from the RHS.
Mark the points:
ABCD are the corners of the square, starting top right and going clockwise.
The angled lines are CG (G being the intersection with AB) and AH.
I is the point of intersection of CG, AH.
E is the point on AB nearest I
F is the point on BC nearest I
By similar trangles AEI, ABH:
w = (10-h)*3/10
and using CFI, CBG:
h = (10-w)*2/10
etc.

I tried this problem the co-ordinate geometry way, like the OP, but it didn't result in much fun, even though I did find the answer after some work. This method is really very ingenious and elegant(and quite acceptable for a 9th year)! :smile:

Thanks for sharing, haruspex.
 
cool!

thanks haruspex, that's exactly what I've been looking for!
 

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