Argument of the Perihelion Projection

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The discussion clarifies the equation LP = w + N, where LP represents the Longitude of the Perihelion, w is the Argument of the Perihelion, and N is the Longitude of the Ascending Node. It emphasizes that while LP and N lie on the Ecliptic Plane, w is positioned on the Elliptic Plane, tilted by the inclination i. The conversation explains that the perceived discrepancy arises from the definition of LP and suggests that by rotating the orbit plane by the inclination, one can align the components within the same plane, thus avoiding singularities associated with zero inclination or eccentricity.

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In Celestial Mechanics the equation:

LP = w + N (Longitude of the Perihelion = Argument of the Perihelion + Longitude of the Ascending Node)

is confusing.
Both "LP" and "N" are on the Ecliptic Plane but "w" is not.
"w" is on the Elliptic Plane with a tilt of "i" Inclination from the Ecliptic Plane at "N".
Even though "i" is small then projection of "w" onto the x-y axis of the Ecliptic Plane is different than just plain "w".
How do you explain for this discrepancy?
 
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Philosophaie said:
In Celestial Mechanics the equation:

LP = w + N (Longitude of the Perihelion = Argument of the Perihelion + Longitude of the Ascending Node)

is confusing.
Both "LP" and "N" are on the Ecliptic Plane but "w" is not.
"w" is on the Elliptic Plane with a tilt of "i" Inclination from the Ecliptic Plane at "N".
Even though "i" is small then projection of "w" onto the x-y axis of the Ecliptic Plane is different than just plain "w".
How do you explain for this discrepancy?

If you rotate your orbit plane by the inclination prior to adding the Argument of the Perihelion + Longitude of the Ascending Node together, then they will be in the same plane. In other words, you're inventing a new coordinate system whose fundamental plane matches the orbit plane, and the angle between the fundamental plane of your new coordinate system is separated from the ecliptic plane by an angle equal to your inclination.

The new coordinate system avoids singularities that occur when the inclination is 0 and/or the eccentricity is 0. And what you're showing is roughly how to convert the elements of your new coordinate system into something more familiar.

There will be some quirks in the conversion, but the converted elements will still point to the location of the object you're interested in. For example, if you're talking about circular satellite orbits around the Earth, the conversion process from Equinoctial elements (with no singularities) to Keplerian elements (that can't be created when eccentricity and/or incination is 0) will probably yield incorrect values for the argument of perigee and the true anomaly. However, the sum of the two (the argument of latitude) will always be correct.
 

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