Arithmetic Mean-Geometric Mean inequality question

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The discussion centers on the application of the Arithmetic Mean-Geometric Mean (AM-GM) inequality, specifically questioning the use of the square root instead of the fourth root in certain examples. Participants express concern that this might be a typo, especially since the right-hand side (RHS) equals 1 in some cases, making the choice of root seemingly irrelevant. However, further exploration reveals inconsistencies in the proofs, particularly when substituting specific values for variables, leading to incorrect conclusions. Ultimately, the consensus suggests that there are errors in the textbook, prompting one participant to consider deleting the thread due to confusion. The conversation highlights the importance of accuracy in mathematical proofs and the implications of using different roots in inequalities.
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Textbook example states that (a/b + b/c + c/d + d/a)/4 ≥ (a/b × b/c × c/d × d/a)^(1/2) based on AM-GM. But AM-GM states that the RHS should be the 4th root i.e ^(1/4), not the square root, because there are 4 terms. I thought this was a typo, but then a later example uses the exact same idea.
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For numbers x₁, x₂, ..., xₙ: (x₁ + x₂ + ... + xₙ) / n ≥ (x₁ * x₂ * ... * xₙ)^(1/n)
Hi,

Can someone explain why we can use the square root rather than the 4th root in this application of the AM-GM?

(a/b + b/c + c/d + d/a) / 4 ≥ (a/b × b/c × c/d × d/a)^(1/2)

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I think it is a typo. But it doesn't matter in this example because the RHS is 1.
Is the later example similar? If its RHS is ##\le 1##, then the fourth root is ##\ge ## the square root.
 
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FactChecker said:
I think it is a typo. But it doesn't matter in this example because the RHS is 1.
Is the later example similar?
Great thanks, I was satisfied it was a typo, or that the writer recognized the product was equal to 1 so thought it didn't matter. But then in a later proof he writes:

$$

\frac{\frac{a^3}{b} + \frac{b^3}{c} + \frac{c^3}{d} + \frac{d^3}{a}}{4} \geq \sqrt{\frac{a^3}{b} \times \frac{b^3}{c} \times \frac{c^3}{d} \times \frac{d^3}{a}}

$$
$$
\frac{\frac{a^3}{b} + \frac{b^3}{c} + \frac{c^3}{d} + \frac{d^3}{a}}{4} \geq \sqrt{a^2b^2c^2d^2}

$$
$$

\frac{a^3}{b} + \frac{b^3}{c} + \frac{c^3}{d} + \frac{d^3}{a} \geq 4abcd

$$

Note:

$$ a,b,c,d > 0 $$
 
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FactChecker said:
I think it is a typo. But it doesn't matter in this example because the RHS is 1.
Is the later example similar? If its RHS is ##\le 1##, then the fourth root is ##\ge ## the square root.
Ok, I think there are errors in the textbook. I just tried a simple substitution of ## a=1, b=2, c=3, d=4 ## and the conclusion is false. ##4abcd = 96## while the ##LHS= 74 ## approximately. So the RHS should have ## \sqrt{abcd}## and I've been lead down a rabbit hole.

Apologies. I wonder if I should delete this thread?
 
Your thread is fine. :smile:
 
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