Atomic Layers calculation in Feynman lectures

In summary, Feynman is explaining how to measure the size of the nucleus. He writes that the number of atomic layers is related to the size of the entire atom, not the size of the nucleus. He also mentions a method to determine the size of atoms using the material's atomic weight, Avogadro's number, and the material's density.
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Aleoa
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The lecture is here, paragraph 5-7.

Feynman is trying to explain how to measure the size of the nucleus.

He writes :

"Suppose we have a piece of material
1 centimeter thick. There will be about 10^8 atomic layers.

Since we don't know the size of the nucleous, how can be possible to calculate how many atomic layers are situated in 1 centimer of a (unspecified) material ?
 
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The answer is given in the first two paragraphs of the very same section.
 
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Vanadium 50 said:
The answer is given in the first two paragraphs of the very same section.

[itex]\Delta x = v\Delta t[/itex] ?
 
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Aleoa said:
Δx=vΔt\Delta x = v\Delta t ?

Appears exactly nowhere in the first two paragraphs of 5.7.
 
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I think this part:
"First, from an observation of the way light of short wavelength (x-radiation) is reflected from a pattern of marks of known separation, we determine the wavelength of the light vibrations. Then, from the pattern of the scattering of the same light from a crystal, we can determine the relative location of the atoms in the crystal, obtaining results which agree with the atomic spacings also determined by chemical means. We find in this way that atoms have a diameter of about 10−10" role="presentation">10−10 meter."

Unfortunately, i don't understand it , neither intuitively :(
 
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Aleoa said:
Since we don't know the size of the nucleous, how can be possible to calculate how many atomic layers are situated in 1 centimer of a (unspecified) material ?
The number of atomic layers is related to the size of the entire atom, not the size of the nucleus. The size of atoms can be determined e.g. by methods that Feynman describes in the paragraph immediately following Fig. 5-9 (which I now see you've quoted above). That method uses the concept of diffraction gratings, which you can read about in Chapter 30.

Another method is to use the material's "atomic weight" (g/mole), Avogadro's number (atoms/mole) and the material's density (g/cm3) to arrive at the volume per atom. This is basically the "chemical means" that Feynman referred to.
 
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1. How do atomic layers contribute to Feynman lectures?

Atomic layers are an essential concept in Feynman lectures as they help explain the structure and behavior of atoms. Feynman used the analogy of a layer cake to describe the layers of electrons surrounding the nucleus of an atom, which play a crucial role in determining an atom's properties and interactions with other atoms.

2. What is the process for calculating atomic layers in Feynman lectures?

The calculation of atomic layers in Feynman lectures involves using quantum mechanics to determine the energy levels of electrons in an atom. From there, the number of electrons in each energy level can be determined, and the layers can be visualized as a result. This calculation is based on the Schrödinger equation and involves complex mathematical techniques.

3. Can atomic layers be observed in real life?

Atomic layers cannot be directly observed in real life as they are too small to be seen with traditional microscopes. However, their existence and properties can be inferred and studied through experiments and calculations based on quantum mechanics.

4. How do atomic layers contribute to the periodic table of elements?

The periodic table of elements is organized based on the number of atomic layers in an atom's electron configuration. Elements in the same column, or group, have the same number of atomic layers, which also correlates with similar chemical properties. This organization helps explain the patterns and trends observed in the chemical behavior of elements.

5. Are atomic layers the same as electron shells?

Atomic layers and electron shells are often used interchangeably, but there is a slight difference between the two. Atomic layers refer to the actual layers of electrons surrounding the nucleus, while electron shells refer to the energy levels that the electrons occupy. The number of atomic layers determines the number of electron shells in an atom's configuration.

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