AudioQuest Diamond: most expensive HDMI cables worth it?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the value and legitimacy of high-priced HDMI cables, specifically the AudioQuest Diamond model, which is priced at $1,494.75 for a 6.5FT length. Participants explore whether such cables offer any real benefits for audiophiles or if they are simply overpriced products with exaggerated claims.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants argue that the claims of "low jitter" and "low distortion" are meaningless for digital signals, suggesting that the high price is unjustified.
  • Others propose that shielding in digital communication cables may reduce interference, although they note that the specific claims made by the AudioQuest cable do not support this argument.
  • One participant compares the situation to previous experiences with Monster cables, suggesting that the high prices are not warranted by performance.
  • There is a mention of algorithmic pricing on platforms like Amazon, which could lead to inflated prices without a deliberate scam.
  • Concerns are raised about the long-term reliability of connectors rather than the cable's performance itself, with some suggesting that mechanical reliability is more critical than the advertised features.
  • A reference is made to an article claiming that audiophiles could not distinguish between high-end speaker cables and a coat hanger, questioning the perceived value of expensive cables.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally express skepticism about the value of the AudioQuest Diamond HDMI cables, with multiple competing views on the legitimacy of high-priced cables and their claims. The discussion remains unresolved, with no consensus on whether the cables are a scam or if they hold any value for audiophiles.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight the importance of mechanical reliability in connectors and the potential for algorithmic pricing to affect perceived value. There is also a discussion about the subjective nature of audio quality and the challenges in measuring differences in performance between cables.

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I was browsing amazon for some basic HDMI cables and was flabbergasted when I came across some by AudioQuest Diamond. They cost $1,494.75 for 6.5FT.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B003CT2A2M/?tag=pfamazon01-20

The information gives
  • Solid Perfect-Surface Silver (PSS) Conductors
  • Low Jitter, Low Distortion Audio
  • Signal Conductors Controlled for Digital Audio Direction
  • Bi-Directional Ethernet Communication and Audio Return Channel Enabled
  • Dielectric-Bias System (DBS US Pat # 7,126,055) Significantly Improves Audio Performance
Is this a total scam or is there some value for the biggest audiophiles out there?
 
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Greg Bernhardt said:
Is this a total scam or is there some value for the biggest audiophiles out there?
It is a scam. The cable may well be a high quality cable, but since we are talking digital signals, the "Low jitter, low distortion" is meaningless. After all, we are running full duplex gigabit communication over Cat 6 cables, and they are not especially expensive.
 
Perhaps it's not a deliberate scam. Aren't some prices on Amazon set by computer algorithms?
 
You can make an argument that shielding digital communications cables in an audio environment is valuable, as it reduces interference in your speakers and the analog portion of your signal chain. This cable doesn't make that argument. It's a scam.
 
This is monster cables X 10... complete BS...
 
Windadct said:
This is monster cables X 10... complete BS...
Does monster cable also engage in shady claims? I used to have an 30ft s-video monster cable and got it fairly cheap on ebay. Worked just fine :)
 
IM (NSH) O Absolutely! - it is not that they are bad - they just are too expensive for the claims they make. - I like http://www.mycablemart.com - In the digital realm - HDMI = HDMI - if the cable is bad you will notice it.. dropped frames, freezes - etc. The long term mechanical reliability of the connector is much more important then anything I have seen monster advertize. As for interferance with speakers - I would challenge anyone to notice a <5V digital signal wrapped around their speaker to notice the difference.

NSH = not so humble - sorry I have a strong opinion on this - it gives people in technical marketing and sales a really bad name...used car anyone?
 
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Greg Bernhardt said:
Does monster cable also engage in shady claims? I used to have an 30ft s-video monster cable and got it fairly cheap on ebay. Worked just fine :)
Yes, but if you got them especially cheap, you beat the scam, since the entirety of the scam is aimed at convincing you to spend more than they are worth.
 
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Windadct said:
The long term mechanical reliability of the connector is much more important then anything I have seen monster advertize.
I'll agree with that. The socket, plug, and the boot between the plug and cable are very common failure points. But only in cables that are manipulated often (charging cables, for example). So while it is true, it isn't even all that critical for an HDMI cable, which spends years in the same position.