Average Car Exhaust NOx Emissions with Catalytic Converter Explained

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The discussion revolves around the average nitrogen oxides (NOx) emissions in car exhaust with a catalytic converter, specifically seeking to convert a measurement of grams per mile into parts per million (ppm). Participants explore related concepts of fuel consumption and air-fuel ratios necessary for combustion.

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  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant inquires about the average ppm of NOx emissions from cars with catalytic converters, referencing a measurement of 0.4 grams per mile.
  • Another participant asks about fuel consumption and the amount of air required for combustion, indicating a need for understanding the relationship between fuel efficiency and emissions.
  • A hypothetical scenario is presented involving a car with a fuel efficiency of 30 miles per gallon and an air consumption rate of 0.2 kg/min.
  • Participants discuss the calculations needed to determine the gallons of fuel consumed per mile and the corresponding air required for combustion, with one participant suggesting a stoichiometric approach to find the necessary oxygen and air mass.
  • There are references to the mass of fuel and air, and how to calculate the total mass involved in the combustion process.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

The discussion does not reach a consensus, as participants are exploring calculations and assumptions without settling on specific values or methods for converting emissions measurements.

Contextual Notes

Participants do not provide specific assumptions or definitions for the conversion of grams per mile to ppm, nor do they resolve the mathematical steps involved in the combustion calculations.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be useful for individuals interested in automotive emissions, combustion chemistry, and the technical aspects of fuel efficiency and air-fuel ratios.

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Can anyone help me out and tell me what the average amount of ppm of NOx is in car exhaust with a catalytic converter? I found .4 grams per mile and can't seem to find any kind of conversion, but I am trying to compare it to another ppm measurement so it needs to be in ppm.

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What's fuel consumption/efficiency? How much air to combust that much fuel?
 
lets say its a 30 mpg car with an air consumption of .2 kg/min
 
That's how many gallons to drive a mile? And how much air to burn it? I'm not going to do the arithmetic for you --- I'll talk you through the layout.
 
so at 30 mpg, itd be .033 gallons per mile. how could i find how much air it takes to burn it?
 
What's the mass of 0.033 gallons? Figure what --- CH1.5 for a stoichiometry, around 36 g/mol for the fuel. How much oxygen do you need to turn that into carbon dioxide plus water? How much air to furnish that much oxygen? What's the mass of that much air? What's the sum of the masses of fuel and air?
 

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