Average Speed and Free-Falling Objects

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The discussion involves two distinct physics problems: one concerning average speed during a car trip and the other regarding the speed of a free-falling object dropped from a height. The first problem examines the conditions necessary for a car to achieve a specific average speed over a given distance, while the second problem focuses on the kinematics of an object in free fall under gravity.

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Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the implications of average speed calculations for the car trip, questioning the feasibility of achieving the desired average speed. In the free-fall scenario, there is discussion about the object's speed after falling a certain distance and the conditions under which it is considered at rest.

Discussion Status

Some participants confirm the correctness of the car problem's analysis, while others express uncertainty regarding the free-fall problem, particularly about the object's speed upon reaching the ground. There is an ongoing exploration of different interpretations of the object's state at the end of its fall.

Contextual Notes

Participants are navigating assumptions about the definitions of speed and rest in the context of the free-fall problem, as well as the implications of average speed in the car problem. The discussion reflects a mix of mathematical reasoning and conceptual clarification.

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Homework Statement



A car is making a trip of 40 mi. It travels half the distance at an average speed of 20 mph. In order for it to have an average speed of 40 mph for the whole trip, the car would need to:

a. travel at an average speed of 40 mph for the trip’s remainder.
b. travel at an average speed of 60 mph for the trip’s remainder.
c. cover the remainder of the distance in 15 minutes.
d. It is not possible for the entire trip to have an average speed of 40 mph..




Homework Equations



average speed = distance / delta time

The Attempt at a Solution




Based on the mathematical definition of average speed, the time taken to travel the first 20 mi is:

Time = distance / average speed = 20 mi / 20 mph = 1 hr

The time required to travel the desired distance, 40 mi, with an average speed of 40 mph is:

Time = distance / average speed = 40 mi / 40 mph = 1 hr

For the first 20 mi, 1 hr has already elapsed; therefore, the total time to travel 40 mi will be longer than 1 hr. Is the correct choice d.?




Homework Statement



An object at rest is dropped from a height of 10 m. After 1 s, what is the object’s speed? (g = 10 m/s^2)


Homework Equations



v_f = v_o +a*t

The Attempt at a Solution



v_f = v_o +a*t

v_o = 0 m/s
t = 1 s
a = -10 m/s^2

v_f = (-10 m/s^2)*(1 s) = |-10 m/s| = 10 m/s ?


Thank you.
 
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The car problem is correct.

For the dropped object, you might or might not be correct. What is the object's speed after it has fallen 10 m?
 
I don't quite understand your posed question. Wouldn't the object be at rest once it lands 10 m below the building?

Or do you want me to find v_f with the equation (v_f)^2 = (v_o)^2 + 2*a*(delta x) in which v_f = sqrt[2*(-10 m/s^2)*-10 m]?
 
Soaring Crane said:
I don't quite understand your posed question. Wouldn't the object be at rest once it lands 10 m below the building?

Yes, exactly. So the answer is either 0, or the 10 m/s you calculated. It depends on whether the object has fallen 10m in 1 s.
 

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