-b.1.3.21-24 Order and linear or nonlinear

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The discussion revolves around determining the order and linearity of specific partial differential equations from a set of problems. Participants explore the definitions and characteristics that classify these equations as linear or nonlinear, referencing specific equations and their properties.

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  • One participant lists four partial differential equations and provides initial assessments of their order and linearity.
  • Another participant clarifies that linear equations cannot contain products or functions of the dependent variable or its derivatives, suggesting that equations 22 and 24 are nonlinear due to the presence of the term $uu_x$.
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  • Some participants express confusion regarding the subscript notation used for partial derivatives, discussing its relevance to the classification of the equations.
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Participants generally agree on the definitions of linear and nonlinear equations, but there is some uncertainty regarding the classification of specific equations, particularly in the context of the provided examples.

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In each of Problems 21 through 24,determine the order of the given partial differential equation;also state whether the equation is linear or nonlinear. Partial derivatives are denoted by subscripts.
21. $u_{xx} + u_{yy} + u_{zz}= 0$
23. $u_{xxxx} + 2u_{xxyy} + u_{yyyy} = 0$
22. $u_{xx} + u_{yy} + uu_{x} + uu_{y} + u = 0$
24. $ut + uu_{x} = 1 + u_{xx} $

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21. 2nd, linear 22. 2nd, nonlinear 23. 4th,linear 24. 2nd, nonlinearThis isn't HW, just trying to go thru the book on my own
Apparently the subscripts give the answer but ?
 
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It's not entirely clear what your question is. The subscripts tell you what you're taking the partial derivative w.r.t. For it to be linear, then you can't have any products or functions of the dependent variable or any of its derivatives.
 
As Adrian stated you cannot have any products in a linear equation, so look at 22.) and 24.)...notice both have the product $uu_x$. So they are non-linear whereas the others are linear. :)
 
OK, wonder why the goofy subscribes or is that just an destraction

Btw, having a good latex writer on MHB is really a plus.

I quit going to other math sites because the latex is such a pain
 
karush said:
OK, wonder why the goofy subscribes or is that just an destraction

Btw, having a good latex writer on MHB is really a plus.

I quit going to other math sites because the latex is such a pain

The subscript notation tells you with respect to which variable(s) the partial is taken. For example:

$$\pd{u}{x}$$ is equivalent to $$u_x$$

$$\pd{u^2}{^2x}$$ is equivalent to $$u_{xx}$$

$$\frac{\partial u^2}{\partial x\partial y}$$ is equivalent to $$u_{xy}$$

And yes, we are very pleased with our $\LaTeX$ tools here at MHB. (Yes)
 
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