B.A. or B.S. in Physics: Which is Better for Grad School in MS&E?

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The discussion revolves around the decision of whether to pursue a Bachelor of Arts (B.A.) or a Bachelor of Science (B.S.) in Physics for the purpose of applying to graduate school in Materials Science and Engineering (MS&E) or Management Science and Engineering (MS&E). Participants explore the implications of each degree type on course selection and graduate school applications.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests that a B.A. in physics might allow for more chemistry and engineering electives, which could be beneficial for interdisciplinary studies in MS&E.
  • Another participant points out that in the U.S., students can often take courses outside their declared major, although specific requirements may vary by institution.
  • It is noted that there is no standardization between B.A. and B.S. programs, and the value of each degree may depend on the specific courses required by different schools.
  • A participant raises the question of whether graduate schools would prefer applicants with a B.S. or a B.A. when applying to MS&E programs, especially when both degrees are offered at the institutions being considered.
  • There is a discussion about the importance of the actual courses taken rather than the degree title itself, emphasizing that course requirements should be reviewed for each specific program.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the implications of choosing a B.A. versus a B.S. in physics, with no consensus on which degree is definitively better for graduate school applications in MS&E. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the preferences of graduate programs.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention that the requirements for B.A. and B.S. degrees can vary significantly between institutions, which may affect the decision-making process. There is also uncertainty about how graduate schools evaluate the relevance of coursework versus degree type.

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I'm an undergrad getting ready to transfer as a junior from a 2-year college to a 4-year college. My declared major is physics, but I want to go to grad school under an MS&E program. Should I go for a B.A. in physics? My reasoning is that it would allow me to take more chemistry and engineering electives.

What are benefits and the damages of each: B.A. Physics and B.S. Physics?
 
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Do you live in the US? If so, you can take whatever courses you want, it doesn't really matter what your major is (outside of very specific courses for very specific majors... which I've only ever heard of 1 class being that way).
 
Rulesby said:
What are benefits and the damages of each: B.A. Physics and B.S. Physics?

It depends on the specific courses required for the two degrees. There's no standardization, especially between different schools. If one school offers only a B.A. and the other offers only a B.S., it's impossible to conclude just from the names of the degrees which one is "better."

Harvard offers only a B.A. Who would turn up his nose at a B.A. in physics from Harvard? :smile:
 
Pengwuino said:
Do you live in the US? If so, you can take whatever courses you want, it doesn't really matter what your major is (outside of very specific courses for very specific majors... which I've only ever heard of 1 class being that way).

Yeah, i live in the United States. I'm planing to transfer to the UC or CSU system. The way I've been taught how these colleges work in tandem with the California Community Colleges (which I am currently attending), is this. A person in a CCC must go on assist.org to make sure that you are taking courses which work toward his or her major. assist.org tell us what courses the universities expect a junior to have already completed. If I want to transfer as a junior and my declared major is physics, I need to have completed those courses outlined in assist.org.

AFAIK, I can't just take whatever courses I want. If I don't take the courses outlined in their physics program, they will not give me a physics degree.

The dilemma here is that if I got with a B.S. program in physics, I will be taking mostly upper division physics courses, leaving little room for electives. On the other hand, if I go with a B.A. program, I will not be required to take all of the upper division courses a B.S. major would have to do, which gives me space in my schedule to take chemistry and engineering courses.

The problem is that I don't know which of the two will make a better case for me when I apply to graduate school under an MS&E program. Will the grad school not care (overlook) if I took those extra electives to prepare myself for the interdisciplinary field of MS&E? Or maybe will they see I have a B.S. Physics and they will have me take those extra chemistry and engineering courses during grad school?

jtbell said:
It depends on the specific courses required for the two degrees. There's no standardization, especially between different schools. If one school offers only a B.A. and the other offers only a B.S., it's impossible to conclude just from the names of the degrees which one is "better."

Harvard offers only a B.A. Who would turn up his nose at a B.A. in physics from Harvard? :smile:

What about schools that offer both a B.S. and a B.A.? The schools I am applying to do this. Would a grad school prefer a person applying to MS&E that has a B.S. or a B.A.?
 
MS&E = Materials Science and Engineering?
MS&E = Management Science and Engineering?

I found both kinds of programs on Googling for "MS&E".

Regardless, I still think what counts is the courses that you actually take, rather than the name of the degree per se (BA versus BS). What are the course requirements for a BA versus a BS, at whatever school you're interested in?
 

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