B.S. in Physics: Is it Worth It?

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The discussion revolves around the value of a Bachelor of Science in Physics, particularly in relation to potential career paths and financial implications. Participants explore whether a physics degree is worthwhile compared to engineering degrees, considering factors such as employability, salary prospects, and personal fulfillment in the field of physics.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses uncertainty about pursuing a physics degree due to concerns about job prospects and debt, questioning if combining it with engineering minors would be beneficial.
  • Another participant asserts that if one wants to be an engineer, an engineering degree is more appropriate, suggesting that the discussion has been raised multiple times before.
  • Some argue that the perceived worth of a physics degree depends on the individual's belief in their education and skills, noting that physicists are often seen as adaptable and versatile employees.
  • It is suggested that obtaining an MBA or other professional degrees could enhance employability, with physics providing a strong foundation for problem-solving skills.
  • A participant who completed chemical engineering argues that it offers more job options compared to physics, but acknowledges that pursuing physics is valid if it aligns with one's interests.
  • One participant challenges the notion that a physics degree is worthless, citing data that shows physics graduates often perform well in employment and salary compared to their peers, despite a wider distribution of outcomes.
  • Another participant provides a link to a report for further reading on employment trends for physics graduates.
  • It is suggested that having a physics degree along with industry-relevant skills can lead to decent employment opportunities, emphasizing the importance of programming and statistics knowledge.
  • A participant shares their experience of graduating with a physics degree and finding diverse job opportunities, including positions in finance, engineering, and research, while also noting the intensity of the physics curriculum compared to engineering.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of views on the value of a physics degree, with no consensus reached. Some believe it offers broad opportunities, while others emphasize the advantages of engineering degrees for job security and salary potential.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention various factors influencing the perceived value of a physics degree, including personal interests, job market conditions, and the importance of additional skills. There is also a recognition of the variability in outcomes for physics graduates compared to engineering graduates.

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Is a B.S. in Physics really worth it.(I have searched and read other threads on here)

Well its almost time to declare my major at my school. I am a sophomore at Penn State. I am currently on the path for Aerospace engineering and or Mechanical engineering but I feel like engineering isn't for me. I can't explain it, I guess I am more of a why person rather than how. I love physics. Anyway, I have heard that a B.S. in Physics is worthless. I have been searching this site for advice on this.. On if the degree is worth the debt I will be in when I get out of college (I have private loans and government loans) or if I should go with the engineering route. From what I have read a physics degree can get other jobs but most of what I read on this forum regards engineering and because I want to be able to pay back these loans I have after school, the engineering route seems like a better option. So my questions are:

If I got a physics degree with some engineering or other minors would that be the same or better as the single engineering degree?

What if I decide not to got to grad school for physics?
 
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If you want to be an engineer, do an engineering degree. Your question is virtually no different than any of the other dozen threads posted in the past few weeks about the benefits of a physics degree vs those of an engineering degree.
 


A Physics degree is worthless if at the end of the day you feel like it's worthless. If you believe you have a good education and have the skills to succeed in a job you're applying for then it comes down to how you sell yourself to the employer. Just because the job description says something other than 'physicist' doesn't mean a physics grad would be useless. Most employers find physicists to be excellent employees because we tend to be more versatile and flexible to adaptation(source: various seminars I have attended at my university where people like 3M and other company reps have come to talk)
 


it all depends on what you want to do, getting a mba or other professional degree will help your employ-ability if that is what you are looking for at the end of the day. a physics degree would be a great basis for this since you greatly develop your problem solving skills, and get a great understanding about how things work.
 


I don't think its worth it.

I did chemical engineering; you have way more job options at the end of your 4(...?) years.

UPenn has an excellent program from what I recall. I would investigate that. But, at the end of the day, if physics is what tickles you, go for it.
 


Whenever I read someone stating that a physics degree is worthless, I tend to think of overly melodramatic teenagers who view the world with arbitrary black or white criteria established by their peers without any other basis beyond their own self-supporting anecdotal experience.

Actual data, when you bother to look it up, shows that physics majors do very well on average in relation to their peers in terms of employment, starting salary, and career progression. Because physics graduates come from an academic program and not a professional one, they tend to have broader distributions in salary, for example, than their professional (engineering) conterparts.

When comparing median starting salaries, physics graduates tend to finish in the middle of the back when compared with all disciplines of engineering.

But because they are not consistently number 1, and because finding a job often involves more than surfing through the "physics" section on MONSTER, because the wide distribution means that your brother's friend's ex-girlfriend's roommate's dance instructor knows a guy who went through a physics program and now works at a minimum wage job... physics programs are labelled "worthless."

/RANT
 
Here's a report for you to read.

http://www.aip.org/statistics/trends/reports/emp2010.pdf
 


If I got a physics degree with some engineering or other minors would that be the same or better as the single engineering degree?

If you know physics and know some skills that someone in industry can use to train you, and you have a pretty good GPA, you'll get employed somewhere decent. Learn how to program, learn some statistics, do some projects involving simulations and modeling. Read about things that are useful in areas of employment that you really want to go into.

To have your shot at "explaining the universe using physics" for a living, you should get a PhD and try to become a researcher. Most try and fail.

I would be less brief, but that's all the questions asked so far seem to warrant.
 


I am graduating from PSU next semester with a physics degree. I plan to go to grad school, but I can tell you that my friends looking for work are having no trouble. A physics degree puts you in a position to work in almost any field. I know people who have gotten job offers from financial institutions, engineering positions, research positions at national labs, software development, etc... Basically you have a ton of options.

If you want to be an engineer however, I can tell you that the course load is less intense for engineering majors (at psu that is) than a physics majors (although I've heard aerospace is very heavy as well, and none of the engineering majors are easy).

As a side note, if you just want to make money, go into chemical engineering (it's possible to make 6 figures out of school). Although, I know of someone with a physics degree from West Chester that makes 6 figures now, about 6-7 years out of school. He is an incredibly driven person, I don't mean that his case is the norm, but I'm just trying to say it's possible to make good money with the degree.
 

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