B.S. in Physics, PhD in Philosophy?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around the transition from a Bachelor of Science in Physics to pursuing a PhD in Philosophy. Participants explore the implications of such a shift, including career prospects and the academic job market for both fields.

Discussion Character

  • Debate/contested
  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants inquire about experiences of transitioning from physics to philosophy at the graduate level.
  • Concerns are raised regarding the job market for PhDs in philosophy, with some noting that there are more candidates than available teaching positions.
  • Others argue that similar concerns exist for physics PhDs, particularly in academia.
  • It is suggested that there are more job opportunities outside academia for physics PhDs compared to philosophy PhDs, which are perceived to have limited career options.
  • Some participants mention the existence of dual degree programs in physics and philosophy, implying that such pathways may facilitate the transition.
  • References are made to notable physicists who have contributed to philosophy, suggesting that a background in physics can enrich philosophical inquiry.
  • There is a critique of the notion that obtaining a philosophy degree automatically confers insight, emphasizing the need for genuine intellectual engagement.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the viability of transitioning from physics to philosophy, particularly regarding job prospects and the nature of philosophical inquiry. No consensus is reached on the overall feasibility or desirability of such a career path.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight the competitive nature of academic job markets in both fields, but the discussion remains unresolved regarding the specific challenges faced by philosophy graduates compared to those in physics.

Geremia
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Has anyone here majored in physics as an undergrad and switched to philosophy as a graduate student? Thanks
 
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Has anyone? Yes. Has anyone here? Unlikely. What are you planning to do with a PhD in philosophy? There are far more people with PhDs in philosophy who want to teach college than there are jobs for them.
 
eri said:
What are you planning to do with a PhD in philosophy?
I would like to teach and write.
eri said:
There are far more people with PhDs in philosophy who want to teach college than there are jobs for them.
Yes, but what if one wants to stick with academia? Then the same could be said about physics PhDs, too. No?
 
Geremia said:
the same could be said about physics PhDs, too. No?

If you consider only academic jobs, then yes. People do say this about Physics PhDs as well. However, the academic job situation is far far worse for people outside scientific disciplines. People from both scientific and liberal arts disciplines will agree on this.
 
There are a lot of jobs outside academia for physics PhDs. There's really nothing you can do with a PhD in philosophy besides teach and write, and there are far more people with PhDs in philosophy than there are faculty jobs. Any other job you get with that degree really wouldn't be utilizing the degree.
 
Check out the first "area of study" on this page: http://philosophy.ucsd.edu/graduate/areasofstudy.html
There's also this one, but I'm not sure if they have a graduate program: http://www.ox.ac.uk/admissions/undergraduate_courses/courses/physics_and_philosophy/physics_and_3.html

Also, I think there was a recent conference at the Perimeter Institute for Theoretical Physics where half of the attendees/speakers were "modern philosophers."
 
If you're dead set on working hard pondering unanswerable questions so you can live in poverty then yes, I'd say philosophy is the way to go.
 
Real philosophers develop interesting worldviews and write them down. They don't get a degree in philosophy and suddenly become insightful.
 
I don't think you should have too much trouble doing philosophy after physics. The reason I think this is that my school offers a dual BS in physics and philosophy, so I would think that it wouldn't be too hard to get into a philosophy program with a physics BS, especially if you look for a program in philosophy of science like the ones cmos found.
 
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G037H3 said:
Real philosophers develop interesting worldviews and write them down. They don't get a degree in philosophy and suddenly become insightful.
Yes, this is true. Look at Heisenberg or Pierre Duhem; they were physicists who wrote some awesome philosophy of physics.
 

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