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Ban professional sports

  1. Jan 31, 2008 #1

    Ivan Seeking

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    It seems that watching sports may be too dangerous to be allowed to continue; at least based on the popular paradigm of banning all things bad.

    http://health.usnews.com/usnews/hea...-bowl-fans-should-heed-heart-risk-finding.htm

    Perhaps it would still be okay to allow bowling and darts.

    In all seriousness, I have always been bothered by the primative and often violent instincts that sports seem to foster. I played a number of sports - was best at football and volleyball, and swam competitively - and enjoyed them immensely, but there is an element of devolution about the whole business.

    There is nothing more disgusting that watching parents lose it and go into a rage at a little league game. Wasn't there even a case of one parent killing another one recently [within the last few years] in a little league hockey game? I've even heard of parents attacking kids on the opposing team.
     
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  3. Jan 31, 2008 #2

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    Couldn't they just put a 30sec delay so that the broadcasters can blank out anything exciting happening like a goal or a view of Janet Jackson's breast?
     
  4. Jan 31, 2008 #3

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    Ban pro sports?!? But where will we get our bread and circuses??

    It's astonishing how much rage there is in people. Humans evolved under such difficult conditions (famine, war, slavery, etc.) that we used to need all that aggression. Now, we have all our basic physical needs met - and most of our "wants" met too. All that aggression has to go somewhere.

    Pro sports is an accepted outlet for aggression. Not my cup of tea, but I think some people need it.
     
  5. Jan 31, 2008 #4

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    Maybe they could intersperse scenes from the Golf Channel during tense game moments.
     
  6. Jan 31, 2008 #5

    lisab

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    Or bowling. That used to be big when I was a kid - bowling matches on TV.
     
  7. Jan 31, 2008 #6

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    Are you kidding?! Those can be the tensest moments of all! "Tiger has a 40-footer for Eagle and a one-shot victory over xxxx to avoid a play-off." I hate watching team sports, but I can watch a golf tournament, as long as it is being hotly contested. When you've got 3-4 players all within a stroke or two of one another, heading down the back nine, that can be quite exciting.
     
  8. Jan 31, 2008 #7
    Watching professional sports is a serious hobby of mine. I get rather irritated with these kind of anti-sport sentiments because I could just as easily say that we should ban music because it increases aggression.

    And I always love to point out to people how professional sports got me more interested in mathematics and statistics.
     
  9. Jan 31, 2008 #8
    Wouldn't it be easier to just ban cardiovascular diseases?
     
  10. Jan 31, 2008 #9

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    I do think sports are taken way out of context. For one, why is steroid and other drug use by baseball players an issue for Congress? I was not aware that it is the job of Congress to regulate meaningless games. Isn't this why we have the police?

    On another front, here is an interesting excerpt from Bill Moyer's Journal.

    http://www.pbs.org/moyers/journal/01182008/transcript1.html
     
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    I don't think there's enough moderation in life. Bleeding idealists will scream about how sports are not beneficial for society, and propose a model of how to live that basically says "ban all forms of entertainment." I love learning, but reading textbooks on hard topics 24/7 would give me a headache. My brain and my eyes need a break. So this is where sports come into play.

    It's such a strawman when people tell me not to get so worked up over a sporting event because it's not life and death. And to this I say "what?" Only an idiot would put sports into such a grand context. And I know most sports fans aren't inspired in this manner, but there are a lot of sports fans who delve into statistical analysis because of sports. I've already mentioned it, but because of sports I became more interested in mathematics and statistics.

    So to say sports are a hinderance and a health risk is just such an ignorant statement to make. Where's the criticism for music then? Surely those same bleeding idealists don't see a beneficial factor for music in society.
     
  12. Jan 31, 2008 #11

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    I have that on tape :!!):devil::blushing:
     
  13. Jan 31, 2008 #12

    Ivan Seeking

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    The idea that we should actually ban sports was sarcasm. I was speaking to the inane but popular notion that we should control or ban anything that can be bad for a person.

    Actually, the health study concluded that sports can be dangerous to one's health, not me. So it sounds to me like you are refusing to accept a fact [or what appears to be a fact] based on your opinion. Also, there is nothing wrong with being willing to recognize that there are problems even if you feel that something like sports can be a real positive. I agree; I too enjoyed sports. In fact I probably could have gone pro as a kicker for football, but that doesn't take away from the fact that sports are given far too much importance in our society.

    And the bit linked from Bill Moyers shows that the system is corrupt. If you really value sports, then you should also support correcting problems where they exist. Do you think it's fair that we effectively subsidize pro sports team, or really their rich owners, through the use of sleezy laws?
     
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    I'm sorry if my post was worded in a way as to be directed at you. I do feel like sports is used as a scapegoat when things are going wrong.



    I'm not ignoring the study, but I feel like this study has more to do with the grunting fan rather than the group of fans who have their interests in mathematics and statistics peak because of sports.

    I agree that sports are given way too much importance in society, but so are a lot of things. Singling out one is just showing off a bias.



    One idiotic statement made by an idiotic person is all the fuel needed for anti-sports people to create strawman arguments about how the typical sports fan treats a game like life and death. A lot of sports fans would disagree with this sentiment, but of course most will take this quote and run with it like it's the disposition of all sports fans.
     
  15. Jan 31, 2008 #14

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    I don't understand people that are into sports, but I don't care that they do. It has gotten to the point of being deadly though, as in soccer in Italy, and was banned to spectators.

    http://www.sptimes.ru/index.php?action_id=2&story_id=20312

    I honestly wouldn't miss pro sports at all. Getting rid of pro sports has nothing to do with people actually playing sports. Do people really NEED to see other people play? I don't think so. Does that 250lb sedentary guy need to be cramming his face full of food while screaming at the tv?
     
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  16. Jan 31, 2008 #15

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    :rofl: I like your idea best. :biggrin:
     
  17. Jan 31, 2008 #16
    A lot of the times it's punks looking for trouble who do it, not actual fans. I remember this happening a few times in Poland when I lived there. The smaller (i.e. not international) games would attract idiots who would mask their faces and go on rampages after the game.

    Yeah, I know what you mean. I really HATE the "we" mentality people get from sports, too. Said 250lb guy on the couch goes around screaming "We won!" after what? He didn't lift a finger to help the team. He didn't do ANYTHING.

    But hey, if someone wants to watch grown men run around chasing balls, then that's their choice, you know?
     
  18. Jan 31, 2008 #17
    Do people really NEED to go to concerts? Do people really NEED to read what other people write?
     
  19. Jan 31, 2008 #18
    What a meaningless simplification. We could do this to a lot of things.
     
  20. Jan 31, 2008 #19
    You make it sound so easy and yet don't give any examples.
     
  21. Jan 31, 2008 #20
    Music instruments are just pieces of plastic and wood.
    Food is just ingredients meshed together.
    A computer is just made of parts and chips.
    A book is just ink on pieces of paper.
     
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