Banking curve problem (find maximum speed)

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The problem involves a car traveling around a circular curve with a specified radius and a maximum frictional force that is a percentage of the car's weight. Participants are tasked with calculating the maximum speed at which the car can navigate the curve.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Some participants attempt to apply the equation for centripetal speed but express uncertainty about the forces involved, particularly the role of static friction. Others question the relationship between the normal force and the frictional force.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring the relevant forces and equations. Some guidance has been offered regarding the frictional force in relation to the weight of the car, but no consensus has been reached on the correct approach or formula to use.

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Participants note a lack of familiarity with static friction formulas and express confusion about the forces acting on the car. There is also mention of homework constraints that may limit the information available for solving the problem.

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Homework Statement


A car travels around a circular curve on a flat, horizontal road at a radius of 42meters.
the maximum frictional force between the tyres and the road is equal to 20% of the weight of the car
calculate the maximum speed at which the car can travel around the curve at a constant radius of 42 meters


Homework Equations


I think I am supposed to use v = √rg
But I don't have a set of answers for these problems so I am not sure as this doesn't include the part of the question, the maximum frictional force between the tyres and the road is equal to 20% of the weight of the car


The Attempt at a Solution



v = √42*9.8
∴ v = 20.29 m/s
 
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5ymmetrica1 said:

Homework Statement


A car travels around a circular curve on a flat, horizontal road at a radius of 42meters.
the maximum frictional force between the tyres and the road is equal to 20% of the weight of the car
calculate the maximum speed at which the car can travel around the curve at a constant radius of 42 meters


Homework Equations


I think I am supposed to use v = √rg
But I don't have a set of answers for these problems so I am not sure as this doesn't include the part of the question, the maximum frictional force between the tyres and the road is equal to 20% of the weight of the car


The Attempt at a Solution



v = √42*9.8
∴ v = 20.29 m/s

The centripetal force is mv^2/R but what force is in play to produce that force ? It's not mg since that's the weight of the entire vehicle. What's the static friction force?
 
I haven't studied any formula for static friction at this time in my physics course so I'm not quite sure what you mean sorry.

I know Fw = Fg (and Fv is equal but opposite in direction)

and that when split into vector components Fh = Fc

so is the frictional force Ff = FN (Normal force)?
 
5ymmetrica1 said:
I haven't studied any formula for static friction at this time in my physics course so I'm not quite sure what you mean sorry.

I know Fw = Fg (and Fv is equal but opposite in direction)

and that when split into vector components Fh = Fc

so is the frictional force Ff = FN (Normal force)?

You don't need the actual formula of friction since you know Fμ=0.2*G
 
5ymmetrica1 said:
I haven't studied any formula for static friction at this time in my physics course so I'm not quite sure what you mean sorry.

I know Fw = Fg (and Fv is equal but opposite in direction)

and that when split into vector components Fh = Fc

so is the frictional force Ff = FN (Normal force)?


If yo have a weight W sitting on the table and the coefficient of static friction is μ, how much horizontal force can you apply before it starts to slip?
 

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