Basic constant velocity graph question

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The discussion revolves around a boat's motion described by a mathematical model, specifically examining the interpretation of a position versus time graph. The original poster questions whether the boat can be said to be "approaching the origin" based on its position function.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants explore the implications of the boat's movement in relation to the origin, questioning the correctness of the phrasing "approaching to the origin." There is also discussion about the potential for diagonal movement and how it affects the interpretation of the boat's trajectory.

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Participants are actively engaging with the original question, offering insights into the terminology and the mathematical implications of the boat's movement. Some suggest that the original poster should provide more context for clarity, while others delve into the nuances of nautical terminology related to movement toward a goal.

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There is a noted lack of a complete problem statement from the original poster, which has led to some confusion and speculation among participants. Additionally, grammatical concerns regarding the phrasing used by the original poster are raised, which may affect the clarity of the discussion.

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Homework Statement



A boat is sailing starting from x = 200m.
When interpreting x(position) vs. t(time) graph for this boat with math models x = -20t + 200(t<=10),
Is it right to say "The boat is approaching to the origin" ? (When t <= 10)

Homework Equations



x = -20t + 200(t<=10)

The Attempt at a Solution


I thought it would be yes, but wasn't sure why. What if the boat is moving diagonally? not directly to the origin?
 
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Boat? What boat?

Please provide a complete problem statement.
 
That doesn't answer the original question, but here are some thoughts regarding the diagonal way:

In nautical terms there exists a word for the approaching speed to a goal, if it is not possible -due to which reasons ever – to sail directly in the preferred direction. It’s called VMG (velocity made good) and can be calculated with the actual boat speed over ground SOG multiplied with the cosine of angle α between the course over ground COG and the direction to the goal.

VMG = SOG ⋅ cos(α)

The larger α, the smaller the VMG and therefore the “approaching velocity” to the goal. Making way, the angle α increases and the VMG decreases (except if you point straight ahead to the goal, i.e. α = 0). The boat stops approaching to the goal, if the α = 90°. The distance Dlim, when this limit is reached can be calculated with the initial angle α0 at t=0.

Dlim = -200 ⋅ cos (α0)

The time tlim till this point is reached (assuming the SOG = -20) can be calculated:

tlim = Dlim / SOG

To answer your question in 3.: If -20 is the SOG and not the (partial) velocity in x-direction (i.e. there is the possibility, that the boat moves “diagonally”), the boat will approach to the origin only till the time tlim, afterwards it will move away (and approaching doesn’t apply for all t<=10).
 

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stockzahn said:
That doesn't answer the original question, but here are some thoughts regarding the diagonal way:

That may be true, but the rules here at PF ask those seeking help to post complete problem statements, rather than snippets of a larger problem statement.

It gives prospective helpers all the facts and prevents needless speculation and going back and forth with the OP, trying to extract enough information to make sense of things.
 
First, "approaching to the origin" is bad grammar! It should be just "approaching the origin". And "approaching the origin" just means that the distance to the origin decreases as time passes- it doesn't have to be along a straight line and it doesn't have to be directly toward the origin.
 

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