Basic Power Problem: 66 kW Solution

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The problem involves calculating the minimum power required for a motor to lift a fully loaded elevator at a constant speed, considering both frictional forces and gravitational forces acting on the system.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the known forces and velocity, with some expressing confusion about how to begin the calculations. There are attempts to calculate power based on the frictional force and the weight of the elevator, leading to questions about the accuracy of the final answer.

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Homework Statement



A 1.0 x 10^3 kg elevator carries a maximum load of 800.0 kg. A constant frictional force of
4.0 x 10^3 N retards the elevator's motion upward. What minimum power, in kilowatts, must the motor deliver to lift the fully loaded elevator at a constant speed of 3.00 m/s?

Homework Equations


the final answer turns out to be 66 kW

P=W/time

P=Fv

The Attempt at a Solution


Im really confused here and do not know where to start. all i know is the equations for power
 
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You know the force. You know the velocity. What is the issue?
 
cepheid said:
You know the force. You know the velocity. What is the issue?

But the force they give is frictional force. I just need some help on how to start out
 
I just did this:
The power of the frictional force part is:
(4000 N)(3 m/s)=12000 W

then you find the power of the normal force of the elevator so its:
1000 kg + 800 kg =1800 kg

(1800 kg)(9.8)(3.0 m/s)=52920

then i added both powers:
1800W + 52920W =64920 W

then I converted to kW and got 64.92 W. How did they get 66? sig figs would only bring it up to 65.
 
Your method is correct! You do indeed have to calculate the power based on the SUM of the two forces, because the motor has to provide enough force to exactly counteract both friction AND gravity (i.e. the elevator's weight), both of which are working against it.

When I first read your problem, I did it in my head, using g = 10 m/s^2 in order to simplify the mental math and get a ballpark answer. However, I got exactly 66 kW. So maybe they were expecting you to use g = 10? I don't know what else to suggest...
 
Oh well, 65 is probably acceptable. thanks for the help
 

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