Basic Selection Rule for Angular Momentum

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The discussion revolves around quantum mechanics selection rules, specifically concerning angular momentum and photon emission during electron transitions. The original poster expresses confusion regarding whether an electron's spin transition can account for the angular momentum lost when a photon is emitted.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants explore the relationship between electron spin transitions and angular momentum conservation, questioning if a change in spin orientation can adequately account for the angular momentum associated with photon emission.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants examining different aspects of angular momentum and selection rules. Some guidance has been offered regarding the relationship between total angular momentum and the contributions from both orbital and spin angular momentum.

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Participants reference specific quantum states and selection rules, indicating a focus on the implications of angular momentum conservation in transitions. There is mention of a specific transition question regarding allowed transitions based on angular momentum considerations.

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I am getting confused by the QM selection rules. Photons have an angular momentum of 1. So when a transition of some sort occurs and a photon is emitted, the atom must lose 1 unit of angular momentum.

My question is, is a electron transitioning from spin up to spin down (m_s from +1/2 ---> -1/2) an appropriate way to "get rid" of the 1 unit of angular momentum? It does not make sense to me that it would because that would just be a re-orientation of the z component rather than a change in the vector itself.

This is the table I am trying to understand (for the magnetic and electric dipoles).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Selection_rule#Summary_table

Thank you
 
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teroenza said:
My question is, is a electron transitioning from spin up to spin down (m_s from +1/2 ---> -1/2) an appropriate way to "get rid" of the 1 unit of angular momentum? It does not make sense to me that it would because that would just be a re-orientation of the z component rather than a change in the vector itself.

But you can't just "re-orient" the electron, in the end state you have two particles. Suppose initially the electron has spin 1/2. Then the end state has spin 1 - 1/2 = 1/2, where 1 comes from the photon. Now, if you flip the z-axis, the initial state has spin -1/2, and end state has spin -1 + 1/2 = -1/2.
 
By reorientation I mean a change from spin up (m_s =+1/2) to spin down (m_S=-1/2). I think my question ultimately is : If the orbital angular momentum quantum number "l" does not change during the transition, is the change in spin orientation (because that's what I thought m_s was, just the z component) enough to account for the lost unit of momentum from the electron. The \Delta S=0 makes sense because you can't change the magnitude of the electron's spin, just it's z component (orientation).
 
Now, looking at my modern physics textbook I think I see why I was wrong. The magnitude of L and S stay the same, but the change in m_s changes the magnitude of J because J=L+S, added as vectors. That change in J, accounts for the photon's 1 unit of momentum.
 
I think a test question I should ask is: Is a transition from 2P_3/2---> 2P_1/2 an allowed transition? The one unit of angular momentum for the photon coming from the electron's spin change.
 

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