Ben Stein's New Movie "Expelled" | Intelligent Design Support

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Ben Stein's upcoming film "Expelled" has sparked significant debate, primarily for its promotion of intelligent design, which many argue lacks scientific credibility. Critics express concern that the film misrepresents scientific discourse, claiming it portrays a conspiracy against religious scientists and misuses quotes from scientists to support its narrative. The tagline "No Intelligence Allowed" is viewed ironically, highlighting perceived deficiencies in the film's arguments. Discussions also touch on the broader implications of teaching intelligent design in science classrooms, with many asserting that only scientifically validated theories should be presented. The film is described as a vehicle for creationist propaganda, with accusations of deceit in securing interviews with scientists. Some participants acknowledge witnessing discrimination against scientists due to their religious beliefs but emphasize that this should not justify the inclusion of non-scientific theories in education. Overall, the conversation reflects a deep divide between proponents of evolution and supporters of intelligent design, with calls for maintaining scientific integrity in educational settings.
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2stroketech said:
I've been lurking around for months and finally decided to join today, so this is my fist post.

My question, is why do things like this bother some so much? Science is science and if it is not then ignore it. Most won't even bat an eye when some one mentions perpetual motion. Why would anything else you consider a myth get your attention? My only conclusion to this is: (a) you are insecure and need to trash something to make yourself feel better about yourself. or (b) you are trying to convince yourself you do not believe in the myth.

If someone calls your mother a wh***, do you just say "I'm secure in my belief that she is not. Your words do not phase me."?

Now, when it's a company making a multi-million dollar movie about it? Would you just ignore it also?
 
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  • #52
2stroketech said:
My question, is why do things like this bother some so much? Science is science and if it is not then ignore it.
The problem with a movie like this should be obvious. They had respectable scientists appear under false pretenses. The people that made this movie lied, they are misleading the public and they are skewing the truth in order to further their anti-science agenda. No one should still still and let these people get away with misinforming the public.
 
  • #53
Also, because directly or indirectly, it's the public who decide whether the funding goes to science or somewhere else.
 
  • #54
I just enjoy the laughter i get from all of it.
But i have been told that i have a twisted sense of humor.

Laughter and hypocrites go together like stink and flies
 
  • #55
Here is an interesting discussion I stumbled upon. I must say that I'm getting quite a kick out of it.

https://www.amazon.com/tag/science/forum/ref=cm_cd_dp_rt_tft_tp?%5Fencoding=UTF8&cdForum=FxZ58KVEERYS5E&cdThread=Tx3JCNE4TR2AFOK&tag=pfamazon01-20
 
  • #56
Evo said:
Here is an interesting discussion I stumbled upon. I must say that I'm getting quite a kick out of it.

https://www.amazon.com/tag/science/forum/ref=cm_cd_dp_rt_tft_tp?%5Fencoding=UTF8&cdForum=FxZ58KVEERYS5E&cdThread=Tx3JCNE4TR2AFOK&tag=pfamazon01-20

I've browsed a few of these before. My favorite is this one guy who whenever refuted by someone who uses scientific terms that he then gives Wikipedia links to, replies "You're using Wikipedia for your argument?" as if it made any sort of difference. He's not quoting it as a source, he's using it as a dictionary to explain scientific terms.
 
  • #57
Kurdt said:
I can't remember reading about Darwin saying lightning struck a puddle of mud. :confused:

It's a straw man argument. Usually employed by those who have no real objective evidence to support their possition, or with which to refute the opposition.
 
  • #59
Poop-Loops said:
You do know that Landover Baptist is a complete joke, right?

I mean as in, they are doing it for the lulz?

I would be careful when looking at that site. My antivirus software picked up on something and was able to quarantine it.
 

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