Bernoulli/ Continuity Eq'n problem

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The problem involves fluid dynamics, specifically applying Bernoulli's principle and the continuity equation to a scenario with a water tank that has both an inlet and an outlet pipe. The inlet pipe has a smaller diameter and a specified flow rate, while the outlet pipe has a larger diameter and a different height, raising questions about the velocity of water exiting the tank.

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Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the relationship between the volume flow rates of the inlet and outlet pipes, questioning whether they should be equal. There is an exploration of the implications of changing water levels in the tank and how that affects the flow rates. Some participants express uncertainty about the adequacy of the provided information for solving the problem.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants offering insights into the assumptions that may need to be made regarding the flow rates. There is recognition that additional parts of the problem may provide further context or constraints, but no consensus has been reached on the correct approach to the initial question.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the problem may involve assumptions about the flow rates being equal, and there is mention of a potential lack of information regarding the initial velocity of the water in the outlet pipe. The time frame for the volume of water entering the tank is also highlighted as a point of confusion.

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First of all, thanks to all the PF mentors out here, especially TSny and pgardn, who have made physics doable and are helping me accomplish my dreams! Even when putting in the work its not easy to get all this stuff!


Homework Statement



A large water tank has an inlet pipe and an outlet pipe. The inlet pipe has a diameter of 3 cm and is 1 m above the bottom of the tank. The outlet pipe has a diameter of 9 cm and is 7 m above the bottom of the tank. A volume of 0.6 m3 of water enters the tank every three minutes at a gauge pressure of 1 atm.

(a) What is the velocity of the water in the outlet pipe?

Homework Equations



A1V1=A2V2

DV/Dt=AV (for both)

The Attempt at a Solution



I've done three practice problems, and gotten them all right. The difference between those and this one, is that the volume of water enters over three minutes, instead of one. So I think that's part of where I'm messing up.

My method:

Knowing DV/Dt = Av, I plugged and chugged:

.6/180=(.045^2)pi*v1=> v1=.524 m/s. This exact method worked before, but for this problem, the answer is .589 m/s. Does anyone see where I messed up?
 
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Hello Jamesbiomed. If the problem stated that the volume flow rate in the outlet pipe is the same as the volume flow rate in the inlet pipe then I think your answer would be correct. But it could be that the amount of water in the tank is changing. Then the outflow rate would not match the inflow rate. It doesn't seem to me that there is enough information given. I guess there are additional questions being asked in the problem besides part (a). Perhaps those additional parts give some hints as to any assumptions that you are supposed to make.
 
Hey TSny! The only other part is a follow up:

(b) What is the gauge pressure in the outlet pipe?

So the gauge pressure will be different (which would be true whether the volume flow rate is the same or not I think)

Like I said, in three practices, setting volume flow rate equal to AV gave me the correct answer. So I would guess it they mean the rate should be equal. Since I don't know initial "v" I don't see another way to go about it if not.
 

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