Bernoulli's law for water coming out of a faucet

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Homework Help Overview

The problem involves applying Bernoulli's law to determine the gauge pressure in a pipe supplying water to a building, where water exits through a faucet. The scenario includes specific dimensions of the pipe and faucet, as well as the height difference between them.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the application of Bernoulli's equation, questioning the inclusion of gravitational potential energy and the correct use of atmospheric pressure in calculating gauge pressure. There are attempts to clarify the relationship between pressures at different points and the significance of height in the equation.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided guidance on using atmospheric pressure as a reference for the pressure at the faucet and emphasized the importance of including height in the Bernoulli equation. There is an ongoing exploration of the correct formulation of the equation, with some participants expressing confusion about the terms involved.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the formula for Bernoulli's principle may not have been fully covered in class, leading to varying interpretations of how to apply it in this context. There is mention of the potential neglect of height differences in certain flow scenarios, which may contribute to misunderstandings.

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Homework Statement



Water is supplied to a building through a pipe of radius R = 3.0cm. In the building, a faucet tap of radius r = 1.0cm is located 2.0m above the entering pipe. When the faucet is fully open, it allows us to fill a 25-L bucket in 0.5 minutes. What is gauge pressure in the pipe entering the building? Assume no other faucets are opened during the experiment.

Homework Equations



ΔV/Δt = A*v
A1v1 = A2v2
p1 + 1/2ρ(v1^2) = p2 + 1/2ρ(v2^2) (Bernoulli's law)
pgauge = p - patm

The Attempt at a Solution



Using the first two equations I have determined that v1 = 0.3 m/s and v2 = 2.7 m/s. Now I am unsure how to apply Bernoulli's law when I am missing one of the pressures. When I try to use atmospheric pressure (101325 Pa) as one of the pressures, I do not get the correct gauge pressure, which is 23 kPa. I really just need a push in the right direction! Thank you.
 
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I would use atm pressure as the value for the pressure leaving the faucet. Since it hits the air as it exits. Is that what you attempted? Also remember that Bernoulli's equation will give you the absolute pressure. Did you subtract the atmospheric pressure from that to get the gauge pressure?

The velocity as it enters at the bottom is v1=.3 m/s and the velocity as it exits the faucet is v2=2.65 m/s; I get the same thing...

h1=0
h2=2m
 
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Your form of Bernoulli's EQ seems to be missing a gravitational potential term. This is where the 2 meter height comes into play.
 
Since the pressure coming out of the faucet is just atmospheric you can just solve for the difference P_1-P_2 that's the gauge pressure. That's what I did and I got the 23kPa. Make sure you take the height into account too; as saladsamurai pointed out you left those PE terms out of your equation.

I'm actually preparing for an exam on this stuff myself.
 
okay, now I see. so patm + ρgh + 1/2ρ(v1^2) = p2 + 1/2ρ(v2^2)? Would that be the formula?
 
haha yes it is. Thank you! I think that form of the equation is a combination of Bernoulli's law and Pascal's Law
 
smeiste said:
okay, now I see. so patm + ρgh + 1/2ρ(v1^2) = p2 + 1/2ρ(v2^2)? Would that be the formula?

NO! It is not. (Unless you already did some simplifications. Read on just to make sure you understand the equation properly.)

smeiste said:
haha yes it is. Thank you! I think that form of the equation is a combination of Bernoulli's law and Pascal's Law

The correct equation is:

\frac{v^2}{2} + gz + \frac{p}{\rho} = \text{constant}\qquad(1)

This is a statement of the Conservation of Energy. It say that for an incompressible, inviscid flow,the total energy at a point in the fluid (along a stream line) is the same every where. Meaning that the energy at point 1 along a streamline is the same as at point 2 along the streamline. The form of (1) that you would use is:

\frac{v_1^2}{2} + gz_1 + \frac{p_1}{\rho}=<br /> \frac{v_2^2}{2} + gz_2 + \frac{p_2}{\rho}\qquad(2)

where z1 and z2 are the elevation of the fluid at each point. Though you were not given the elevation of each point, you were given the difference which is all that you need since you can group the terms in (2) in such a way that there will be a (z2-z1) term. And you know that z2-z1 = 2 meters.
 
Okay, thank you for the formula. It's not something that has ever been introduced in class though. I will bring it up with my professor. Thanks!
 
smeiste said:
Okay, thank you for the formula. It's not something that has ever been introduced in class though. I will bring it up with my professor. Thanks!

My guess is that when he introduced Bernoulli's principle, it was in an example. In many cases, we can neglect the difference in elevation. In high velocity flows, it should be clear that the energy contribution due to the kinetic energy term v2/2 will likely be much more important than that of the gravitational potential gz. In the given problem, they want you to use the gravity term because it is not negligible. But definitely bring it up with your professor. It is like that other student have the same confusion if he presented it that way.
 

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