Best pH Meter to Buy: 20-40 Bucks

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The discussion revolves around selecting a reliable yet affordable pH meter for inorganic chemistry laboratory experiments, specifically within a budget of $20-40. Participants explore various models, calibration needs, and the necessity of pH indicator papers versus pH meters.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant seeks recommendations for a reliable pH meter within a budget, emphasizing the need for affordability.
  • Another participant suggests a specific model that exceeds the budget and mentions the need for calibration liquids and alternative testing methods like litmus paper.
  • Concerns are raised about the accuracy of pH indicator papers compared to pH meters, questioning the necessity of purchasing both.
  • Some participants argue that anything under $50 might be too cheap for a reliable pH meter and recommend commercially prepared calibration solutions.
  • There are differing opinions on whether pH meters are commonly used in laboratories, with some asserting that they are unusual for inexperienced students.
  • A later reply challenges the notion that pH meters do not need calibration, emphasizing the importance of using proper calibration fluids.
  • One participant shares a personal experience regarding the care required for pH meters, highlighting their sensitivity and the need for proper maintenance.

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Participants express multiple competing views regarding the necessity and reliability of pH meters versus indicator papers, as well as the importance of calibration. The discussion remains unresolved, with no consensus on the best approach.

Contextual Notes

Some participants mention the potential availability of calibration liquids in their school laboratory, while others emphasize the importance of using commercially prepared solutions. There are also concerns about the accuracy and reliability of cheaper pH meters.

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Hello everyone,

In a few weeks I am going to have my anorganic chemistry laboratory experiments, and I want to buy one PH-Meter.

I'm looking for a model that is realible but not expensive (in the order of 20-40 bucks)

I'll be happy to hear your suggestions

Thanks :smile:
 
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litup said:
https://www.hogentogler.com/ohaus/s...k9a2-lTyWzEwnmaIcRcyWecBAF1oOuEgaAiBdEALw_wcB

A quick look resulted in this, but it is $43

Don't forget you also need a buffer/calibration liquid:

.https://www.mscdirect.com/product/details/07512213

Also, don't forget simple litmus paper testers

https://www.grainger.com/product/3U...0717!&ef_id=VO8dJQAABW1DopT9:20170825145438:s

6 to 10 bucks.

Thanks for your quick reply.
I think I can just ask my professor for calibration liquid instead of buying it in bulk size. And I'm wondering, why can't I use any cheap liquid whose pH value I know (eg pure water)?

Do you think it is necessary that I buy pH indicator papers even if I have the pH Meter?
 
Garlic said:
Do you think it is necessary that I buy pH indicator papers even if I have the pH Meter?
I think @litup was just suggesting that you could use simple paper test strips instead of a pH meter (to save money). What accuracy do you need? Would paper strips be accurate enough?
 
Not sure where you find the choices for pH meters, but anything less than $50 seems too cheap. Analog ok, or must it be digital? You could or SHOULD buy commercially prepared pH buffer solutions for calibrating the meter. pH 4 and 7, if you plan to titrate alkaline samples, or pH 7 and 10 if you plan to titrate acidic samples (I may be off on this a bit). One would expect that your school's laboratory have the needed pH meter already. pH test paper is only qualitative and not a measurement.
 
berkeman said:
I think @litup was just suggesting that you could use simple paper test strips instead of a pH meter (to save money). What accuracy do you need? Would paper strips be accurate enough?

symbolipoint said:
Not sure where you find the choices for pH meters, but anything less than $50 seems too cheap. Analog ok, or must it be digital? You could or SHOULD buy commercially prepared pH buffer solutions for calibrating the meter. pH 4 and 7, if you plan to titrate alkaline samples, or pH 7 and 10 if you plan to titrate acidic samples (I may be off on this a bit). One would expect that your school's laboratory have the needed pH meter already. pH test paper is only qualitative and not a measurement.

Like I said, this is for basic inorganic chemistry laboratory experiments that I'm going to have in our university in a few weeks.

The pH-Meter doesn't have to have high resolution, but it needs to be reliable.

With my experiment partners we have decided that it would be okay to spend a little more to buy a pH-Meter, instead of struggling with pH indicator papers.

I just sent an Email to my Professor if we can find the necessary calibration liquids in our chemistry laboratory, instead of spending 10-15 Euros to buy it in bulk size.

Do you think it is a good idea to buy a pH-Meter?
 
Garlic said:
Like I said, this is for basic inorganic chemistry laboratory experiments that I'm going to have in our university in a few weeks.

The pH-Meter doesn't have to have high resolution, but it needs to be reliable.

With my experiment partners we have decided that it would be okay to spend a little more to buy a pH-Meter, instead of struggling with pH indicator papers.

I just sent an Email to my Professor if we can find the necessary calibration liquids in our chemistry laboratory, instead of spending 10-15 Euros to buy it in bulk size.

Do you think it is a good idea to buy a pH-Meter?
No. You should not buy one. Your school laboratory should already have the necessary pH meter or meters. Your school should already have the necessary pH buffers in the lab, or should make the necessary arrangements to purchase them, or alternatively, should have the necessary compounds to prepare these pH buffer solutions (as may be found in reference sources like some handbook of chemistry & physics).
 
So, after asking my professor, he told me that it is really unusual that someone uses pH-meters in the laboratory, and that it is better to use indicator papers instead, as we are unexperienced with the calibration.

Anyways thank you for your answers
 
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Garlic said:
So, after asking my professor, he told me that it is really unusual that someone uses pH-meters in the laboratory, and that it is better to use indicator papers instead, as we are unexperienced with the calibration.

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Absolute NONSENSE!
 
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symbolipoint said:
Absolute NONSENSE!

I mean in our laboratory classes for second semester physics major students, it is something unusual that someone uses a pH Meter.
He told that the pH Meter that litup suggested is being sold already calibrated, so I wouldn't have to calibrate it before using it, but once something happens it is rather difficult to recalibrate.
I do think he is right
 
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Garlic said:
I mean in our laboratory classes for second semester physics major students, it is something unusual that someone uses a pH Meter.
He told that the pH Meter that litup suggested is being sold already calibrated, so I wouldn't have to calibrate it before using it, but once something happens it is rather difficult to recalibrate.
I do think he is right
Maybe you should discuss what you expect to observe or measure which will involve acids, acidity, bases, or alkalinity. You have not said if you are looking at just matter and energy, or if you are specifically looking at chemistry of liquids or solutions in water, or salts or weak or strong acids or bases, or the balance between acids and bases. If you are dealing with acids or bases in water, then certainly you should expect to use a pH meter. The use of pH indicator paper is only qualitative.

The comment about not needing to calibrate the meter seems like more nonsense.
 
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I would not trust a cheapo Ph meter uncalibrated, I would want some nice 7.0 fluid and 3.0 and say 10.0 or something like that to prove it works, especially for real lab work, student or not. Ph meters are touchy and needs care after use like stuck back in a 7.0 liquid till next use so the electrodes don't dry out. But they are certainly faster and more accurate than litmus or liquid drops.
My company uses HF and we need to dilute it so we have a permanent Ph installation to see the final result when we add bases to make it safe to flush. I made the mistake once of leaving the tip out of water and it got ruined, also gets dust in the tip which can ruin it also. Just take care of them, they will work for a long time.
 
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