Beta function of electroweak theory

Click For Summary

Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the beta function of electroweak theory, specifically in the context of one-loop calculations within quantum field theory (QFT). Participants explore the implications of spontaneous symmetry breaking (SSB) on the asymptotic behavior of the electroweak interactions and seek explicit expressions for the beta function.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant requests the explicit expression for the electroweak beta function at one-loop, questioning whether there are parameter choices that could lead to asymptotic freedom in the electroweak sector of the standard model.
  • Another participant humorously reflects on the seriousness of the forum, suggesting that asking physics questions during the holiday season might not be well-received.
  • A participant provides a reference to a paper that may contain relevant information about the running of electroweak couplings, indicating that a careful reading is necessary to find precise quantitative statements.
  • Further, a participant shares another reference, highlighting the general equation for running couplings and specific values for beta function coefficients, while noting the dependence on particle content and energy scales.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

The discussion does not reach a consensus, as participants express varying levels of understanding and interest in the topic. There are multiple viewpoints regarding the implications of SSB and the conditions under which the electroweak interactions might exhibit asymptotic freedom.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention specific parameters and equations related to the beta function, but the discussion remains open-ended regarding the implications of these findings and the conditions necessary for asymptotic freedom.

Sleuth
Messages
46
Reaction score
4
Hi everyone,

I have another (probably too) simple question for particle physicists on this forum, but I often realize that my understanding of QFT is still rather poor.

Do you know where I can find the electroweak beta function explicitly written down (at one-loop, of course)?
I would like to have a look at the explicit expression for it. The reason is that, as it's well known, non-abelian theories can be asymptotically free. But then, what about SU(2)xU(1) with SSB, i.e. the ew sector of the standard model? Is there a choice of parameters for which the electroweak interactions would become asymptotically free? Or does the SSB mechanism make this impossible?

Thanks!
Sleuth
 
Physics news on Phys.org
I wonder, was the question below everyones' dignity ? xD
 
I wonder if anyone will answer the question now. Most people do not react well to "My servants! Attend me!"
 
Ehm... people do take themselves too seriously sometimes :) i was just making a joke. I thought the question would really be too stupid. Take it easy; ) i guess asking physics questions over Christmas is not the best thing someone can do :D
 
Thanks Hepth! The paper looks like it goes in the right direction. Going through it fast I haven't found a precise quantitative statement on the running of the ew couplings, but maybe I should take some time to read it more carefully!

Thanks
 
Hi Sleuth,

I hope you find the following interesting:

Please look at http://arxiv.org/pdf/hep-ph/0412163v2.pdf.

Equation 2 is the general equation for the running coupling, and the relevant parameter is the b_i piece given in equation 3.

If you compute this for the SM(at 173 GeV) you find
b1=41/6 and b2 = -19/6.

b2 is for example coming from 12 Weyl fermions, 1 scalar, C_2(G) = 2 for SU(2), and T_R(I) = 1/2. So, if you want s_w(mu)^2 or something, you can compute 1/(1+alpha(b1,mu)/alpha(b2,mu)).

On the other hand, if you want to flip the signs etc. of the running beyond some high energy scales etc. where new particles might be living, you have to change the particle content (consistently) and compute the running of the beta functions under these conditions.

Hope this helps.

Edit, added scale at which the SM content gives those values. I believe it includes the top quark.
 

Similar threads

  • · Replies 8 ·
Replies
8
Views
1K
  • · Replies 4 ·
Replies
4
Views
2K
  • · Replies 1 ·
Replies
1
Views
4K
  • · Replies 1 ·
Replies
1
Views
2K
  • · Replies 2 ·
Replies
2
Views
3K
  • · Replies 13 ·
Replies
13
Views
4K
Replies
4
Views
4K
  • · Replies 1 ·
Replies
1
Views
923
  • · Replies 4 ·
Replies
4
Views
2K
  • · Replies 4 ·
Replies
4
Views
3K