How Does Modern Particle Accelerator Energy Density Compare to the Big Bang?

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The discussion centers on the comparison of energy density in modern particle accelerators to that of the early universe during the Big Bang. It clarifies that while temperature and energy density are related, they are distinct concepts; temperature refers to the energy per particle, while energy density indicates the number of particles per volume. The conversation references proton-proton collisions and their inability to reach thermal equilibrium, complicating the definitions of temperature and density. Additionally, it highlights the use of baryon-MeV as a unit of energy per particle, emphasizing the importance of understanding these distinctions in high-energy physics.

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  • Understanding of particle physics concepts, particularly energy density and temperature.
  • Familiarity with baryon-MeV as a unit of energy per particle.
  • Knowledge of proton-proton collision dynamics in particle accelerators.
  • Basic grasp of phase diagrams in nuclear matter.
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  • Research the implications of thermal equilibrium in particle collisions.
  • Explore the significance of baryon-MeV in high-energy physics.
  • Learn about phase diagrams and their applications in nuclear matter studies.
  • Investigate the differences between energy density and temperature in various physical contexts.
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Physicists, researchers in high-energy particle physics, and students studying the early universe and particle accelerator technology will benefit from this discussion.

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How close to the Big Bang can modern particle accelerators get?
How many nanoseconds after the Big Bang was its energy density that achievable in modern particle accelerators?
 
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In the range of many nanoseconds, but without a specific number - if you match the density you don't match the temperature and vice versa, and every collision is different.
 
Thanks. I had however imagined that temperature and energy density were the same thing. What is the difference?
 
Roughly: Temperature is the energy per particle, density is how many particles you have per volume. [Here is a sketch of a phase diagram](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Phases_of_Nuclear_Matter.JPG).

More detailed discussion - figure 11 has the profile for the early universe and dots corresponding to experiments. The x-axis is the "chemical" potential of baryons instead of density, but they are related quantities.

Proton-proton collisions can reproduce processes at higher energy but they don't reach thermal equilibrium so temperature and density become a bit ill-defined, but they can study what happens at higher temperatures.
 
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Thanks. From fig.11 I see that temperature is given in baryon-Mev, which is a unit of energy, rather than degrees C. So they are different ways of expressing the same thing?
 
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From fig.11 I see that temperature is given in baryon-Mev, which is a unit of energy, rather than degrees C. So they are different ways of expressing the same thing?

No. Energy per particle and energy density are not the same thing. Baryon-Mev is a unit of energy per particle; it's just Boltzmann's constant times degrees C (or more precisely degrees K). Expressing temperature in units of energy per particle instead of degrees is common in physics.
 
Thanks. I thing energy-per-particle/temperature was what I was really after.
 
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