Big Bang Singularity: What is it?

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The discussion centers around the concept of the Big Bang, specifically whether it refers to the expansion of the universe from a singularity and the nature of the initial conditions of the universe. Participants explore the implications of the Big Bang model, the reasons behind the expansion, and the conditions leading to the universe's hot and dense state.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants propose that the Big Bang model describes the expansion of the universe from a hot, dense state, but does not address the initial singularity, which indicates a breakdown of physical theory.
  • Others argue that the expansion of the universe occurs without a direct cause, suggesting it is a boundary condition on the dynamics of the universe.
  • There is a question raised about the reasons for the universe being in a hot and dense state initially, which some participants acknowledge as an important and unresolved issue.
  • One participant mentions a theory involving dark energy that is suggested to cause the expansion, but admits that the understanding of dark energy is limited.
  • Another participant highlights the low entropy initial conditions of the universe as a major unsolved problem in cosmology, referencing the Boltzmann brain problem and Hawking's proposal of a quantum origin for the universe.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express uncertainty regarding the initial conditions of the universe and the reasons for its expansion. Multiple competing views and unresolved questions remain, particularly concerning the nature of the Big Bang and the role of dark energy.

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Limitations include the lack of consensus on the cause of the universe's initial conditions and the nature of dark energy. The discussion reflects ongoing debates in cosmology without definitive answers.

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I am a bit confused about big bang. Is the big bang referred to as the expansion of universe from singularity or not. Sorry if i have posted it in wrong section
 
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The Big Bang model refers to the expansion of the universe from a young, hot, dense state. This model does not address the initial singularity -- it is understood to signal a breakdown of the physical theory. So when people refer to the Big Bang in mainstream cosmology, they aren't talking about the actual bang itself, but the model of an expanding universe emerging from a much denser initial state.
 
Ok so why did this expansion occurred
 
There is no direct cause. It might be unsatisfying, but the universe seems to be expanding simply because it can. Given the exact same distribution of energy, the universe could just as easily be contracting.

The correct way to think of the initial expansion of the universe is as a boundary condition on the dynamics.
 
So if i am correct than the main question arises why universe was in the hot and dense state in the first place right?
 
Nstraw said:
So if i am correct than the main question arises why universe was in the hot and dense state in the first place right?
That, sir, is an excellent question.
 
So are there any theories yet which suggest why
 
Nstraw said:
So are there any theories yet which suggest why

There is one, but all it says is basically, if I remember correctly, something like "something called dark energy is causing this expansion and we know nothing about dark energy or why it causes the Universe to expand."

I'm sure it's a lot more precise, but the gist of it is that, if there is a cause, then it's something we don't know anything about.

(Please don't hold me to this, I could be quite wrong.)
 
I think the OP is asking more about the Big Bang itself, rather than theories of present-day expansion.

The Big Bang process, more specifically, the exceptional low entropy initial conditions of the universe, remain a major unsolved problem in modern cosmology -- nobody understands why the early universe had the conditions it had (see the Boltzmann brain problem.)

There are other ideas regarding the actual bang itself, or more correctly, what physical process was taking place at t=0. Hawking's proposal of a quantum origin for the universe -- that it was the result of a zero-energy quantum fluctuation -- is one popular example.
 
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Thank you both so we will have to wait now
 

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