Binomial Distribution: Average & Probability of ≥1 Success

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the binomial distribution, specifically focusing on the average number of successes and the probability of achieving at least one success in a given number of trials. The scope includes theoretical aspects and mathematical reasoning related to the conditions under which certain approximations hold.

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  • Technical explanation
  • Mathematical reasoning
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Main Points Raised

  • One participant states that the average of the binomial distribution with probability k for success is given by Nk, questioning when this approximation is valid, particularly when Nk is small.
  • Another participant provides an alternative expression for the probability of at least one success, suggesting it can be calculated as 1 - (1-k)N, inviting further analysis.
  • A third participant references the binomial theorem to express the probability of at least one success as a series expansion, raising the question of when the first term dominates and speculating that this may occur for sufficiently small k.
  • A later reply emphasizes that it is necessary for Nk to be small, not just k, and points out a potential error in notation regarding the use of capital K in the second term of the series expansion.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the conditions under which the approximations for the binomial distribution hold, indicating that the discussion remains unresolved with multiple competing perspectives.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations regarding the assumptions made about the values of N and k, and the discussion does not resolve the mathematical steps involved in determining the conditions for the approximations.

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The average if the binomial distribution with probability k for succes is simply:

<> = Nk

So this means that if <> = 1 the distribution function must be peaked around 1. In general when is it a good approximation (i.e. when is the function peaked sufficiently narrow) to say that the probability in N tries to have one or more succeses is simply:

P(≥1) = Nk

this obviously does not hold for Nk>1 but on the other hand I don't expect it to hold for small N. So my guess is when Nk is sufficiently small. Is that correct?
 
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P(at least one success) = 1 - P(all failure) = 1 - (1-k)N.
You should be able to analyze it.
 
Right so using the binomail theorem you find:

P(at least one success) = Nk - K(N,2)k2 + K(N,3)k3 - K(N,4)k4 + ...

So the question is when the first term dominates. I am guessing for sufficiently small k?
 
You need Nk small, not just k. In your expression you seem to have extraneous K (capital k) from the second term on.
 

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