Biology salaries - do you think they will spike at some point ?

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The discussion centers around the future of biology salaries, exploring whether they might experience a significant increase. Participants consider various fields within biology, the impact of economic conditions, and the saturation of the job market.

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  • Some participants feel that while there may not be a general spike in biology salaries, specific fields such as medicine, pharmacology, and biotechnology could see increases due to their relevance to human life.
  • Concerns are raised about the saturation of the biology job market, with one participant suggesting that the average salary for a biology PhD is around $30,000, prompting requests for correction.
  • Another participant argues that salaries can vary widely depending on the specific area of biology, with some areas potentially offering much higher salaries than the stated average.
  • There is mention of the biotechnology industry being significant, with a suggestion that salaries could be higher than $30,000 for PhDs, depending on the specialization.
  • One participant reflects on the challenges faced by those in biological sciences, noting that many experience frustration and disappointment, particularly in academia where post-doc positions can be lengthy and precarious.
  • Another participant highlights the lack of transparency in the industry regarding job availability and salary ranges, suggesting that there could be potential for a salary spike similar to past technological booms.

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Participants express differing views on the potential for salary increases in biology, with some believing that specific fields may see growth while others remain skeptical about the overall market saturation and salary levels. There is no consensus on the future trajectory of biology salaries.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that salary expectations can vary significantly based on the specific field within biology, and there are unresolved questions about job market saturation and the impact of economic conditions on salary trends.

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Biology salaries - do you think they will spike at some point ?

I've been curious about this for a while now. I get the feeling that one day, they certainly will.
 
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I will not necessarily say that there will be a salary spike for Biology careers in general but maybe some specific ones. The reason is that some of those Biology careers are just plain useless when it comes to the general public. As far as I have seen, anything that has to do with human life and Biology is the field that gets paid well - think Medicine, Pharmacology, Biotechnology.

Which is why I think such jobs will be getting salary raises or more funding once this economic crisis passes us by.

But if you are asking about Biology careers like the study of animals, or evolutionary Biology, forget it - that is unless university suddenly decide to get charitable.
 
Isn't Bio extraordinarily saturated? Isn't like the average pay for a bio PhD after uni like $30,000? Correct me if I'm wrong.
 
Bio-technoloyg is a big industry.

http://www.bio2008.org/ - Apparently about 22,000 people will attend the conference.

I got this invitation yesterday -
The Advance Life Sciences Network invites you to our first quarterly networking reception for 2008. Join us for a great night of good wine and the chance to meet other Australians working in Life Sciences in the region.
One of the guests at the reception is one of two winners of the 2008 Advancing BioBusiness Award.

I think salaries are quite good, certainly more the $30 K for a PhD, but it will depend on what area in biology/biochemsitry/bio-engineering that one pursues.
 
Here:

http://www.bls.gov/oco/ocos047.htm#outlook

That seems to go over it quite well.
 
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I have been getting the impression that the biotechnology field has become a lot like engineering. Your outlook, salary and job security seem to depend on your specialty and skill set.

The last couple of years, I have seriously looked at making a jump from engineering into the biological sciences. Unfortunately, most of my friends in the biological sciences have strongly discouraged me from doing that. There seems to be a lot of frustrated and disappointed people in that field. Those that pursued academia ended up spending a decade doing post-doc work before landing a permanent position. Those that went into industry often complain that they don’t do any real research anymore. Their jobs are built around securing funding or generating documentation.

I think the salaries are good for the people who succeed in entering the field, but I think a lot of people are forced to give up and find work in other fields.
 
Astronuc said:
Bio-technoloyg is a big industry.

http://www.bio2008.org/ - Apparently about 22,000 people will attend the conference.

I got this invitation yesterday -
One of the guests at the reception is one of two winners of the 2008 Advancing BioBusiness Award.

I think salaries are quite good, certainly more the $30 K for a PhD, but it will depend on what area in biology/biochemsitry/bio-engineering that one pursues.

Bad rep among students.

Transparency of the industry (where are the jobs, how much do they pay ?) for all I know PHD's could be on 200K.

They have products but I have not heard of much demand.

All this suggests possibility for a spike.

The secrecy part in particular.

Reminds me of computers, just chugging along nicely, then BAM someone invents microsoft.
 
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maverick_starstrider said:
Isn't Bio extraordinarily saturated? Isn't like the average pay for a bio PhD after uni like $30,000? Correct me if I'm wrong.

Unless you're talking about post-doc salaries, which are limited by federal funding sources (and still start out higher than $30,000...$30,000 is closer to what the graduate student stipends are), no, salaries for PhDs are much higher than that. As for saturation, depends on the field of biology. I haven't commented on this thread before, because there's no good answer to it. Job opportunities and salary scales are vastly different if you're an ecologist studying the field behavior of some lizard in a rain forest than if you're a cell biologist studying cancer mechanisms.
 
maverick_starstrider said:
Isn't Bio extraordinarily saturated? Isn't like the average pay for a bio PhD after uni like $30,000? Correct me if I'm wrong.

Correction, salaries are $34,000. Wink wink.
Not trying to be funny! I myself am a Biology major!
 

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