Biscuits and gravy? Who the what?

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The discussion revolves around the culinary concept of biscuits and gravy, particularly its appeal and preparation methods. Participants express their confusion and opinions about the dish, comparing it to other food items and sharing personal experiences related to its consumption.

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  • Some participants express bewilderment at the combination of biscuits and gravy, suggesting it seems out of place or poorly conceived.
  • Others provide a breakdown of the ingredients, noting that both biscuits and gravy share similar components, primarily flour and fat.
  • A participant mentions their first encounter with biscuits and gravy in a specific context, indicating a cultural difference in understanding what gravy entails.
  • Concerns are raised about the quality of gravy served in certain establishments, with some participants sharing their preferences for homemade versions.
  • There are humorous exchanges regarding unrelated topics, including linear algebra and personal anecdotes, which detract from the original food discussion.
  • One participant reflects on the preparation of gravy, emphasizing the importance of using meat drippings rather than lard, and shares a negative experience with soggy biscuits.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally do not reach a consensus on the appeal or appropriateness of biscuits and gravy, with multiple competing views remaining throughout the discussion.

Contextual Notes

Some participants reference personal experiences and regional differences in food preparation, which may influence their opinions on the dish. The discussion also veers off-topic into unrelated subjects, indicating a lack of focus on the original culinary question.

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I went to a restaurant this morning and had, among other things, biscuits and gravy. I then realized... what the hell is this? Does anyone else think biscuits and gravy seem very... out of place? It's like some kid just wanted something to eat, grabbed a biscuit and dunked it in a vat of gravy and said boom, staple. I'll never understand you people...
 
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Yeah, as we can never understand penguins too...
 
Pengwuino said:
I went to a restaurant this morning and had, among other things, biscuits and gravy. I then realized... what the hell is this? Does anyone else think biscuits and gravy seem very... out of place? It's like some kid just wanted something to eat, grabbed a biscuit and dunked it in a vat of gravy and said boom, staple. I'll never understand you people...

I think the waiter saw that may be you were not ready for real solid food yet
and saw fit to serve you some thing your imature digestive system could handle :smile:
 
Biscuits = flour, lard, and water

gravy = flour, lard, and water, just more water
 
Evo, seriously...lock this thread. It's utterly stupid. How about for every dumb thread he makes from now on, he has to solve a hard linear algebra problem :devil:
 
cyrusabdollahi said:
Evo, seriously...lock this thread. It's utterly stupid. How about for every dumb thread he makes from now on, he has to solve a hard linear algebra problem :devil:
You know you have started a rash of members saying "thread locked" now? Right? :-p

Oh, and read my latest journal entry, I resisted the temptation to start another thread on my gardening woes.

And Cyrus, he admitted frying cheese in powdered sugar, surely that is worthy of a GOOBF card.
 
Evo said:
You know you have started a rash of members saying "thread locked" now? Right? :-p

Oh, and read my latest journal entry, I resisted the temptation to start another thread on my gardening woes.

And Cyrus, he admitted frying cheese in powdered sugar, surely that is worthy of a GOOBF card.

Yeah, but at least your thread would have a point to it.

Oh man, because powered sugar looks soooooo much like flower...:rolleyes: The stuff doesn't even sift the same...:rolleyes: Frying cheese in powdered sugar, wow...im just speechless.

What's next, is he going to wipe his butt with sandpaper by accident?
 
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cyrusabdollahi said:
Yeah, but at least your thread would have a point to it.

Oh man, because powered sugar looks soooooo much like flower...:rolleyes: The stuff doesn't even sift the same...:rolleyes: Frying chease in powdered sugar, wow...im just speechless.

What's next, is he going to wipe his butt with sandpaper by accident?
Awww, you're just jealous, come on...admit it. :biggrin:
 
Ahem... regarding the original post...
I had absolutely never heard of the concept of biscuits and gravy until the first time that I went to Vegas to play pool. It's a bizarre concept, but it's pretty good if you overlook the fact that Yanks don't seem to have any idea of what gravy is.
 
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Let T: V-> W be a linear transformation from a vector space V into a vector space W. Prove that the range of T is a subspace of W. [Hint: Typical elements of the range have the form T(X) and T(W) for some x,w in V.]

Have fun pengwuino... :devil: :devil:
 
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cyrusabdollahi said:
Let T: V-> W be a linear transformation from a vector space V into a vector space W. Prove that the range of T is a subspace of W. [Hint: Typical elements of the range have the form T(X) and T(W) for some x,w in V.]

Have fun pengwuino... :devil: :devil:
And now you're just being mean,

Found a sick kitten today, really sick. Bu it won't die. It's too weak to eat, distended bowels, should be dead. I finally found the painkiler my vet gave me for sick kittens. I just overdosed it. I'm in tears. I hope it goes soon. This sucks. :cry:
 
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You ended its suffering. There's nothing wrong with that. It was the only humane thing to do. Now, let's put some in pengwunio's food. You can always take it to the Vet. If he can't do anything about it they can put it to sleep.
 
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Kitten just died, it's strong stuff, I hope it really stops the pain/

:cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:
 
  • #14
City girl...moonbear woulda done it with a striaght face...:rolleyes:...she's evilllllll...shhhhhh
 
  • #15
Evo said:
Biscuits = flour, lard, and water

gravy = flour, lard, and water, just more water

Lard in gravy? no oxo or meat juices:confused:
 
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aw. I'm sorry you had to do that, Evo. Poor little critter.
 
  • #17
wolram said:
Lard in gravy? no oxo or meat juices:confused:
As long as there's no powdered sugar in that gravy, I'm in. :-p
 
  • #18
wolram said:
Lard in gravy? no oxo or meat juices:confused:
Gravy on biscuits here is usually cream gravy, no meat.
 
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cyrusabdollahi said:
Let T: V-> W be a linear transformation from a vector space V into a vector space W. Prove that the range of T is a subspace of W. [Hint: Typical elements of the range have the form T(X) and T(W) for some x,w in V.]

Have fun pengwuino... :devil: :devil:
Going easy on Pengwuion huh? This is a very easy proof :smile:Proof:
The Proof is obvious and left as an exercise to the reader QED :-p

OK (I will probably screw it up now that I said it is obvious :smile:)
(i)let c be in R and let v',w' be in Range of T. That is there are some elements in V, say v and w, such that T(v) = v' and T(w) = w'. Since T is a linear transformation, T(cv + cw) = T(c(v+w)) = T(cv) + T(cw) = cv' + cw'

(ii) T is a linear transformation, so T(O) = O

Therefore the Range of T is a subspace of W QED.

edit... I am making some assumptions on a few words here. Specifically, when I took linear algebra we didn't use the word "Linear Transformation" (we used "Linear Map") and we didn't use "Range" (we used "image").
 
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<shrug> I don't know I forgot all that crap two days after the class. :smile:

I'm an engineer, I don't need to know that kinda crap.
 
  • #21
Math Is Hard said:
As long as there's no powdered sugar in that gravy, I'm in. :-p

my insides just went all queezy, that sounds as bad as dripping sarnies.
 
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cyrusabdollahi said:
Let T: V-> W be a linear transformation from a vector space V into a vector space W. Prove that the range of T is a subspace of W. [Hint: Typical elements of the range have the form T(X) and T(W) for some x,w in V.]

Have fun pengwuino... :devil: :devil:
This is way off topic.. Warning time?

As to the topic of this post. I have always been a fan of SOS. What is biscuits and gravy but a form of SOS. I am pretty picky, restuants cannot hold a candle to what I make at home. I picked up a habit during my stay in PA. There is nothing like SOS make with real PA dutch dried beef. A nice white sauce with frizzeled beef... Ummm good. Unfortunately I have not been able to find a source of PA Dutch dried beef on the west coast. I have to rely on my sons shipping me some from PA. I am between shipments. Maybe I need to start droping some hints.
 
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What the hell happened to my thread? Dead cats? Linear algebra?

THREAD CLOSED!
 
  • #24
wolram said:
Lard in gravy? no oxo or meat juices:confused:
That's my reaction too. I go out of my way to skim the fats out of the meat drippings I use for making gravy. Then again, it might explain that stuff they call gravy that gets served in some cafeterias.

The concept was rather foreign to me as well until I moved south of the Mason-Dixon line. It seems southerners are hell-bent on clogging their arteries as fast as possible.

They had beef stew with biscuits at the hospital cafeteria one day, which sounded good to me, until I watched in horror as the poured the stew ON TOP OF the biscuit. Who wants a soggy biscuit? I made them make me a new plate with the biscuit safely off to the side.
 
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Moonbear said:
That's my reaction too. I go out of my way to skim the fats out of the meat drippings I use for making gravy. Then again, it might explain that stuff they call gravy that gets served in some cafeterias.

The concept was rather foreign to me as well until I moved south of the Mason-Dixon line. It seems southerners are hell-bent on clogging their arteries as fast as possible.

They had beef stew with biscuits at the hospital cafeteria one day, which sounded good to me, until I watched in horror as the poured the stew ON TOP OF the biscuit. Who wants a soggy biscuit? I made them make me a new plate with the biscuit safely off to the side.

Total savages, may be it should be called the lardie line :biggrin: as for soggy biscuits, yuck and double yuck, my onion gravy could be used as a meal by its self, but we usualy have with roast beef etc
 
  • #26
Evo said:
Gravy on biscuits here is usually cream gravy, no meat.
On the contrary, all of the biscuits and gravy I have ever encountered has has meat, bits of sausage is common, dried beef (the REAL SOS) less so. I do not think I have ever had meatless biscuits and gravy, and am pretty certian that I do not want to.
 
  • #27
I was wondering if anyone else was going to pull out the SOS reference. I had it for the first time in the Army. It was OK, but nothing spectacular. Go to a Bob Evans. Their's is great. They have a little bit of sausage in the gravy too. Don't even think about ordering it if your cholesterol is within 50 points of 200 though. It's a very simple breakfast to make, frontier type cooking there. Stick to your ribs.
 
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Moonbear said:
That's my reaction too. I go out of my way to skim the fats out of the meat drippings I use for making gravy. Then again, it might explain that stuff they call gravy that gets served in some cafeterias.

The concept was rather foreign to me as well until I moved south of the Mason-Dixon line. It seems southerners are hell-bent on clogging their arteries as fast as possible.
I did a lot of consulting work in the deep south about 10-15 years ago, and it is REALLY tough to eat in restaurants there and still eat healthy meals. Standard menu items are: biscuits and sausage gravy, deep-fried chicken, deep-fried catfish, heck they even deep-fried okra - a make-believe vegetable that is only useful as a base for gumbo. When you have breakfast at a Waffle House, order a slice of apple pie - the waitress will ask you if you want melted butter on it. I asked if she could put a slice of cheddar cheese on it and she looked at me like I had two heads.
 
  • #29
Integral said:
On the contrary, all of the biscuits and gravy I have ever encountered has has meat, bits of sausage is common, dried beef (the REAL SOS) less so. I do not think I have ever had meatless biscuits and gravy, and am pretty certian that I do not want to.
Yes, but it's bits of meat, like sausge, in cream gravy. The gravy itself isn't made with meat drippings.
 
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FredGarvin said:
I was wondering if anyone else was going to pull out the SOS reference. I had it for the first time in the Army. It was OK, but nothing spectacular. Go to a Bob Evans. Theirs is great. They have a little bit of sausage in the gravy too. Don't even think about ordering it if your cholesterol is within 50 points of 200 though. It's a very simple breakfast to make, frontier type cooking there. Stick to your ribs.
Yeah, the Navy's SOS usually was pretty bad, aptly named. I make my gravy with margarine, so while it is still a cholesterol hit it is not as bad as lard or butter.
 

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