Bizarre results of 1-dimensional delta-function potential well

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The discussion revolves around the behavior of a one-dimensional delta-function potential well and its effects on a free particle with positive energy. Participants explore the implications of the potential's characteristics, particularly regarding reflection and transmission of wave functions, while examining the underlying quantum mechanical principles.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested
  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant describes their calculations involving a delta-function potential and notes that full reflection occurs for both positive and negative values of the potential strength, seeking intuition behind this result.
  • Another participant confirms the correctness of the initial results and explains the wave mechanics principle that any boundary leads to reflection, even in quantum mechanics.
  • A participant expresses confusion about the implications of their results, questioning why real particles are not completely reflected by potential drops despite their calculations suggesting otherwise.
  • One participant clarifies that approaching infinity for the potential strength does not yield a valid delta function, as it alters the area under the curve and leads to a different mathematical scenario.
  • Another participant draws an analogy with light reflecting off a medium with a high index of refraction, suggesting that classical mechanics approximations may not apply to sharp potentials like delta functions.
  • Some participants debate the implications of taking the potential strength to infinity, discussing the definitions and properties of delta functions and their derivatives in relation to the problem at hand.
  • One participant asserts that considering the limit of the potential strength becoming arbitrarily large is valid, while another emphasizes that this does not lead to a well-defined Hamiltonian.
  • A later reply acknowledges the resolution of confusion regarding the topic, thanking participants for their insights.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants exhibit a mix of agreement and disagreement, particularly regarding the interpretation of the delta function and the implications of taking the potential strength to infinity. The discussion remains unresolved on certain technical aspects and interpretations of the results.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include potential misunderstandings about the nature of delta functions, the implications of infinite potential strength, and the applicability of classical mechanics to quantum scenarios. The discussion also highlights the complexity of wave function behavior at boundaries.

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I was curious what a delta-function potential barrier would do to a free (E>0) 1-dimensional particle, so I figured it out. I used V = b δ(x) for the potential energy. I got the expected result that full reflection will occur as |b|→∞ or as E→0. These results make sense intuitively when b>0. My intuition is mystified because I get the same result when b<0. Why should a potential well cause complete reflection? I was hoping someone could help my intuition grasp this result. Or maybe I did something wrong in my work, so I am showing my work below...

First of all, I give the particle mass, which I call m, and define
k = √(2 m E / ħ²)
Since the wave function must be continuous at x=0, I get
ψ1 = A (ei k x+B e-i k x)
ψ2 = A (1+B) ei k x
where ψ1 is the incoming and reflected particle on the left, and ψ2 is the transmitted particle on the right. A is the normalization constant, but, since the particle is free, there is no need to solve for it. I then worked out that the fraction reflected is
R = |B
Using the rule about how the slopes of wave functions change across delta-function potentials, I solved for B, and I got
R = 1/(1+W) where W ≡ 2 ħ² E / (m b²)

Thanks in advance for any insight!
 
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The result that you have got is correct. Try to imagine the scenario in terms of wave mechanics. Whenever a wave is incident on a boundary, no matter how strange, it has to split into two components: a reflected wave and a transmitted wave. It is from this principle that you see that even while having a potential well, rather than a barrier, there is still a reflected component. As quantum mechanics also has a wave interpretation (even though not exactly the wave behavior that one would expect, as in classical mechanics), the same result holds for the case of quantum mechanics.
 
Excellent! You have definitely helped me remove a bunch of wrong ideas floating around in my head, but I am still confused about something.

After you mentioned that ANY boundary creates reflections, I looked at the situation of a free particle on the left where V=0 encountering a potential drop on the right. I got that, as the potential drop becomes -∞, R→1 and the wave function on the right becomes 0. Since real particles are sums of these completely-reflected eigenfunction, my results means that real particles should also be completely reflected. But real particles are NOT completely reflected by potential drops!
 
If I am right, then you are taking b to approach infinity to show that R approaches 1 in that case. But, to make a Dirac delta potential, this is not how you do it. The total area (represented by b) in a Dirac delta function is finite; it is the magnitude of the function that is infinite. But when you take b to approach infinity, you make the area of the function approach infinity, and no longer get the results for a Dirac delta potential. What you then have (when taking b to infinity) is a derivative of Dirac delta function, which is even more ill-defined than the original function, and forget about the same relation (R and T) holding for that case, I think that even the wavefunction becomes discontinuous at the boundary for such a potential!
 
I don't know what you mean by a "real" particle. However, the situation is analogous to light ("photons") falling upon a medium of high index of refraction. The higher the index of refraction the higher the percentage of light reflected.
To compare with classical mechanics, take in mind that the classical approximation holds when the distance, over which the potential changes is large compared to the de Broglie wavelength of the particle. For a sharp step or a delta function this is never the case.
There are other potentials which are exactly solvable and where the influence of this condition can be studied, namely the Eckart potential (Google is your friend).
 
No Jivesh, you don't get the derivative of a delta function when b goes to infinity.
Considering the limit of b to infinity for the Reflection is certainly ok.
 
But when we take b to approach infinity, then aren't we saying that the area under the Dirac delta curve is infinite? If I integrate a derivative of delta function, then I get back the same delta function and with a suitable limits, I can get the required infinite area. Is there any other function that can have the same definition as the delta function for b approaching infinity?
 
bknock already defined the delta function and b is only a prefactor. There is nothing wrong in considering the limit that b becomes arbitrarily large.

The derivative of a delta function, in the sense you use it, would not lead to a well defined Hamitonian. That integrating over the derivative of a delta function does yield a delta function has nothing to do with the problem at hand. After all, there is no integration present in the hamiltonian, is it?
 
DrDu, you have completely fixed my confusion! Thank you. And thank you Jivesh :)
 

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