Softened potential well / potential step

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The discussion revolves around the differences between a discontinuous potential well and a differentiable potential well, specifically in the context of quantum mechanics. Participants explore the implications of these potential forms on energy eigenstates and eigenvalues, referencing specific mathematical forms and related literature.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant inquires about literature discussing the differences between a discontinuous potential well and a differentiable potential well, providing specific mathematical forms for each.
  • Another participant questions the sign in the exponential function, suggesting that the negative sign leads to a "downward step," which conflicts with the definition of an "upward" potential step.
  • Some participants assert that the potential becomes a well if the parameter ##V_0## is less than zero, indicating a condition for the potential well's classification.
  • Concerns are raised about the likelihood of obtaining an analytical solution for the exponential potential, with skepticism expressed regarding its solvability.
  • A later reply clarifies the intended form of the potential and emphasizes interest in how the differentiability affects energy eigenvalues, citing additional articles that explore this topic.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the implications of the potential forms, particularly regarding the sign in the exponential and the conditions under which the potential represents a well. The discussion remains unresolved with multiple competing interpretations and no consensus reached.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the treatment of the potentials may depend on specific assumptions about the parameters involved, such as the value of ##V_0## and the exponent ##n## in the exponential function. The discussion also references the complexity of modeling in higher dimensions.

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Approximating a finite potential step with a continuous function
Do any of you know of an article or book chapter that discusses the difference between a discontinuous potential well of length ##2L##

##V(x)=\left\{\begin{array}{cc}0, & |x-x_0 |<L\\V_0 & |x-x_0 |\geq L\end{array}\right.##

and a differentiable one

##\displaystyle V(x) = V_0 \exp\left[-\left(\frac{|x-x_0 |}{L}\right)^n\right]##

Edit: the correct equation above should have been

##\displaystyle V(x) = V_0 - V_0 \exp\left[-\left(\frac{|x-x_0 |}{L}\right)^n\right]##with ##n## some large but finite exponent (limit ##n\rightarrow\infty## is equivalent to the discontinuous version) ?

There was one article discussing the non-classical reflection of a wave packet at a downward potential step that considered the difference between these: https://aapt.scitation.org/doi/abs/10.1119/1.3636408

It should be possible to handle the difference between these two as a small perturbation, if the energy eigenstates and eigenvalues of the discontinuous basic potential well are already known (at least if ##V_0## isn't a very large or infinite number). Doing this for a 2D or 3D well of some shape would be more involved.
 
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Shouldn't the sign inside the exponential be positive? It looks to me like the negative sign, in the limit ##n \to \infty##, gives a "downward step", but the potential well you define is an "upward" step.
 
It becomes a well if ##V_0<0##
 
BvU said:
It becomes a well if ##V_0<0##

The exponential does, but the discontinuous version doesn't; it's a "downward step" if ##V_0 < 0##. So they're still not the same.
 
I didn't look at the article (no access) only at the two potentials in post #1.

Don't think it very likely an exponential yields an analytical solution ...
 
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Oh, sorry, it was supposed to be like

##\displaystyle V(x) = V_0 - V_0 \exp\left[-\left(\frac{|x-x_0 |}{L}\right)^n\right]##.

The reflection from downward potential step was just an example of an article that discusses the effects of making an initially sharp potential barrier continuous and differentiable. I'm mostly interested on the effect of this on the energy eigenvalues of a finite-depth potential well.

Edit: the problem has been studied in these two articles I found:

https://www.scielo.br/pdf/rbef/v42/1806-9126-RBEF-42-e20190222.pdf

https://iopscience.iop.org/article/10.1088/0953-4075/45/10/105102

The first is about the general problem and the second one specifically about modelling the confinement of an atom inside a fullerene cage.
 
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