Blender Particle Photon Simulation (interesting results w soft bodies)

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• ThiagoMNobrega
In summary, the conversation discusses a simulation created in Blender using rigid bodies, soft bodies, and colliders to represent a "classical/particle photon" traveling at light speed. The creator is interested in exploring the idea of a photon behaving as a wave and asks for feedback and ideas from others. However, it is pointed out that there is no connection between the simulation and actual photon behavior. A resource on how quantum mechanics reconciles wave-like and particle-like behavior is also shared.
ThiagoMNobrega
TL;DR Summary
The interesting part is that the photon simulation resembles a ripple/wave form at at the end. My experiment was an attempt to simulate what happens to a particle photon that is going at the speed of light using Blender.

tl;dr: A sphere was giving a soft body, the rigidness and dampness of it of it was set to zero. contains the link for video (0:42) results in the post.
(0:00 / 0:42) photon going light-speed blender simulation

I have no idea how a mathematician would translate this example into an equation. Every time I've worked with soft bodies I seem to run short of mathematicians buddies. Regardless of the mathematics of continuous object deformation, this was a very simple and low polygon simulation. I suspect that, with more polygons on the sphere, the more the wave-like-form (that takes place at the end) would be clear.

What's going on this video?

1 - I created a sphere in this software called Blender
2 - I created a plane, added rigid bodies and colliders to both the plane and the sphere
3 - I added a soft-body to the sphere and tempered with the rigidness and the dampness, setting both to zero
4 - Result: it deforms the same way I'd expect a "classical/particle photon", with a soft-body, would shape to be, that is, at light speed

Observation: the impact is not what I expect the particle to behave. What I expect is that once the "particle/photon" reaches light speed that it would look like the ripple/wave form.Yes, I know this is most likely absurdly wrong and this post should be taken lightly if there is an abundance of ignorance regarding the topics at hand. I just wanted to explore a bit how I'd make a classical particle model with soft bodies and the results were interesting enough that I wanted to share.

I'm interested in seen if anyone had any interesting ideas regarding this video or any ideas into testing this in the future! What do you guys think? Also, please don't be shy on telling me I'm wrong on something, I love to learn.

- Thiago M Nóbrega

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While this is a nice animation it has nothing whatsoever to do with photons (besides the screen producing photons during the display of the animation). Photons are not little spheres that make ripples when they splat.

protonsarecool, aaroman, Vanadium 50 and 2 others
Dale said:
While this is a nice animation it has nothing whatsoever to do with photons (besides the screen producing photons during the display of the animation). Photons are not little spheres that make ripples when they splat.
Thank you so much for the reply! Yeah, I guess I didn't make a couple of things clear. The ripple would be the "photon" at light speed. I guess once it collides it goes back to looking like a sphere. I'll probably get to work on an updated version of this sphere simulation to encapsulate better what I had in mind

I wonder tho, is there a concession on the shape of a photon? I'd image that since photon detectors are based of silicon or germanium, absorbing to detect, that we don't have the technology (or might be impossible) to observe the shape of a photon. Than again, I could be way off!

Also, thank you so much for your inputs/feedback! I guess I'm trying to make a "particle", or a "photon", or 3d sphere with classical physics into it, to behave like a wave.

ThiagoMNobrega said:
Observation: the impact is not what I expect the particle to behave. What I expect is that once the "particle/photon" reaches light speed that it would look like the ripple/wave form.
There is nothing special about the speed of light in the Newtonian mechanics that is the basis of your simulation. It certainly doesn't mean that a particle turns into a wave at the speed of light!

ThiagoMNobrega
ThiagoMNobrega said:
The ripple would be the "photon" at light speed.
No. It isn't. A photon is not a wiggly ball and it doesn't follow the physics/equations implemented in Blender. You simply cannot use Blender to say anything meaningful about photons.

protonsarecool, Vanadium 50, ThiagoMNobrega and 1 other person
ThiagoMNobrega said:
Also, thank you so much for your inputs/feedback! I guess I'm trying to make a "particle", or a "photon", or 3d sphere with classical physics into it, to behave like a wave.
Here is a good introduction to how wave-like and particle-like behaviour can be reconciled by quantum mechanics:

http://physics.mq.edu.au/~jcresser/Phys304/Handouts/QuantumPhysicsNotes.pdf

ThiagoMNobrega
Thank you Perok and Dale, you guys are legends!

berkeman

1. What is Blender Particle Photon Simulation?

Blender Particle Photon Simulation is a feature in the popular 3D graphics software Blender, which allows users to simulate the behavior of particles and photons (light particles) in a virtual environment. It is often used for creating realistic visual effects in animations and simulations.

2. How does Blender Particle Photon Simulation work?

The simulation works by using mathematical algorithms to calculate the movement and interactions of particles and photons based on physical properties such as mass, velocity, and forces. Users can adjust these parameters to create different effects and behaviors.

3. Can I use Blender Particle Photon Simulation for soft body simulations?

Yes, Blender Particle Photon Simulation can be used for soft body simulations, where objects are simulated as flexible and deformable instead of rigid. This can be useful for creating realistic cloth, fluid, or rubber-like materials in animations.

4. What are some interesting results that can be achieved with Blender Particle Photon Simulation?

Some interesting results that can be achieved include realistic-looking fire and smoke simulations, dynamic cloth and fluid animations, and even simulations of natural phenomena such as waterfalls or tornadoes. The possibilities are endless and depend on the user's creativity and skill.

5. Are there any limitations to using Blender Particle Photon Simulation?

Like any simulation software, Blender Particle Photon Simulation has its limitations. It may not be suitable for extremely complex simulations, and the accuracy of the results may vary depending on the parameters and settings used. Additionally, it may require a powerful computer to run smoothly for more demanding simulations.

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