Bloch Sphere generalization for more than one qubit

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The discussion revolves around the generalization of the Bloch sphere representation for multiple qubits, exploring theoretical frameworks and mathematical representations for entangled qubits. Participants examine the implications of extending the Bloch sphere model beyond a single qubit to two and three qubits, considering both geometrical and algebraic aspects.

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  • One participant summarizes Ian Glendinning's derivation of the Bloch sphere for one qubit, noting the transition from a 3-sphere to a 2-sphere representation and the need for a half-angle transformation for accurate representation.
  • The same participant expresses interest in extending this model to multiple qubits, suggesting that two entangled qubits yield a 6-sphere and three entangled qubits yield a 14-sphere, but admits uncertainty about how to proceed further.
  • Another participant references a book that may provide additional insights into the geometry of quantum states and entanglement.
  • One participant shares a paper discussing the geometry of the 3-qubit state, which generalizes the Bloch sphere representation and introduces the concept of Hopf fibration in the context of three qubits.
  • A different participant expresses skepticism about the practicality of scaling the Bloch sphere representation to larger numbers of qubits, while acknowledging the cleverness of the idea.
  • Another participant discusses the dimensionality of n qubit states, proposing a model that combines a point on a unit sphere with angles, while questioning the utility of the Bloch method in higher dimensions.

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Participants express various viewpoints on the generalization of the Bloch sphere, with no consensus reached on the best approach or the implications of higher-dimensional representations. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the practicality and effectiveness of these models for multiple qubits.

Contextual Notes

Participants note limitations in their understanding of projective spaces and the implications of normalization and phase factors in the context of qubit representations. There is also mention of unresolved mathematical steps in extending the Bloch sphere model.

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In https://web.cecs.pdx.edu/~mperkows/june2007/bloch-sphere.pdf, Ian Glendinning describes a derivation of the Bloch sphere for one qubit. To paraphrase his basic argument, one qubit in a pure state can be represented by 2 complex numbers, ##\alpha= a + bi## and ##\beta = c + di##. This yields the equation of a 3-sphere, a^2 + b^2 + c^2 + d^2, but noting that multiplying by a random phase which has no physical effects, one can choose such a phase multiplier to set b=0, giving rise to a 2-sphere representation, a^2+c^2+d^2=0.

This is still a double cover of the qubit, so further steps needed to be taken to recover the actual Bloch sphere, which involves a half-angle transformation.

The author mentions extending this to multiple qubits in "future topics", but I have not been able to find a publication of such extension. I believe he has retired, from the little bit of internet research I tried.

Attempting to pursue the approach on my own, two entangled qubits, the inital phase of the argument yields 4 complex numbers and a 6-sphere, and 3 entangled qubits result in 8 complex numbers and a 14-sphere.

I'd expect the 6-sphere to be a 4 fold cover of two entangled qubits, and the 14-sphere to be an 8-fold cover, but I don't really have any idea how to proceede further.

I'm ultimately interested in the representation problem, ideally is simply as possible, of how to geometrically represent n entangled qubits (in a pure state). However, I'm also interested in comments about my incomplete attempt to extend the author's argument to this case (do they make sense), and / or other authors approaches to the problem.

For instance, Wikipedia's approach to the Bloch sphere, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bloch_sphere, starts with talking about projective spaces, which I am only mildly familiar with. To me, it seems basically equivalent to me to Ian's approach.
 
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It seems to me impractical to scale this up to any meaningful value of n, but I think it is a clever idea.
 
I ran across the very interesting https://arxiv.org/abs/quant-ph/0302081, "Geometry of the 3-Qubit State, Entanglement and Division Algebras" which goes a long way to answering my own question.

partial asbtract said:
We present a generalization to 3-qubits of the standard Bloch sphere representation for a single qubit and of the 7-dimensional sphere representation for 2 qubits presented in Mosseri {\it et al.}\cite{Mosseri2001}. The Hilbert space of the 3-qubit system is the 15-dimensional sphere , which allows for a natural (last) Hopf fibration with as base and as fiber.

The extra phase factor is not eliminated
 
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The extra phase factor is not eliminated
n qubit has 2^n base with complex coefficients so they have 2^(n+1) real parameters. Normalization and the extra phase factor reduce 2 so we should have 2(2^n-1) dimension real manifolds or 2^n-1 complex manifolds to express n qubit states. For coefficients ##\{\ r_je^{i\phi_j}\}##, the manifold is

$$\{r_j \geq 0 \ |\ \sum_{j=1}^{2^n}r_j^2=1\} \cap \{0 \leq \phi_j < 2\pi\ |\ \phi_1=0 \} $$

It means that a model we seek may be combination of a point on a unit sphere of 2^n - 1 dimension
, and a set of 2^n-1 angles. How about it ?

I am not sure that Broch way to halve/double the angle ##\theta## to form a sphere from hemisphere where two bases are orthogonal visually, would be beneficial in higher n cases.
 
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