Blue shift galaxies and the expanding universe

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The discussion clarifies that blue-shifted galaxies do not contradict the expanding universe model, as their velocities are typically small (a few hundred km/s) and represent random motions rather than a challenge to the overall recession pattern observed in red-shifted galaxies. The standard cosmological model, which explains the expansion of the universe, remains intact despite the presence of blue-shifted galaxies. For a deeper understanding of redshift and recession rates, users are encouraged to utilize the "cosmos calculator" available at the provided link, which employs standard parameters such as matter fraction (0.27), cosmological constant (0.73), and Hubble constant (71).

PREREQUISITES
  • Understanding of redshift and its implications in cosmology
  • Familiarity with the Doppler effect in astronomy
  • Basic knowledge of the standard cosmological model
  • Experience with using online calculators for astronomical data
NEXT STEPS
  • Practice using the "cosmos calculator" for various redshift values
  • Study the Hubble Law and its application in measuring cosmic distances
  • Explore the implications of blue-shifted galaxies in local group dynamics
  • Research the latest discoveries of distant galaxies and their redshift measurements
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Astronomers, astrophysicists, and students of cosmology seeking to understand the dynamics of galaxy movements and the implications of redshift in the context of an expanding universe.

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We are told the universe is expanding because galaxies are red shifted and that it is a doppler effect. Do blue shifted galaxies contradict the idea of an expanding universe?
 
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nite owl said:
We are told the universe is expanding because galaxies are red shifted and that it is a doppler effect. Do blue shifted galaxies contradict the idea of an expanding universe?

No the blueshifts of some galaxies only correspond to small (few 100 km/s) random velocities---don't contradict the overall average pattern of recession rate.

If you really want to get to understand redshift and the standard cosmological model then a good thing to do is practice with this calculator
http://www.uni.edu/morgans/ajjar/Cosmology/cosmos.html

to get some experience of what recession rates (and distances) are associated with which redshifts.

To use it you first enter the three principal parameters in the three boxes over on the left labeled "matter fraction", "cosmo constant", and "Hubble". Standard numbers to use are .27, .73, and 71.

Then put in a redshift, like 8.5 (the redshift of a galaxy measured last year, since then some more distant galaxy may have been discovered) and press calculate.

It will give you the distances and recession rates.

You will see that the recession rates are mostly much larger than a few 100 km/s.

(Considering that 300 km/s is only 1/1000 of the speed of light!)

The distance definition commonly used by redshift calculators (like this and like Ned Wright's) is the same distance used in stating the Hubble Law v = H d
where v is the recession rate and d is the distance. It is the "freezeframe" distance you would measure by any ordinary means if you could freeze the expansion process, so that the distance would not change while you were trying to measure it.

Have a look at Morgan's "cosmos calculator" and see if works for you. Please let me know if you have any trouble.
The link is in my signature, or just google "cosmos calculator" and you'll get it.
 
What blue shifted galaxies do you have in mind that are not members of the local group?
 

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