Bound States in Quantum Mechanics: Confused?

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The discussion revolves around the concept of bound states in quantum mechanics, specifically addressing the conditions under which a particle is considered bound within a given potential. The original poster expresses confusion regarding the definition of bound states and the implications of a particle's energy in relation to its ability to escape to infinity.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • The original poster questions the definition of bound states, particularly the assertion that a particle can be bound while having a nonzero probability of being at positive infinity. Other participants engage in clarifying the conditions under which a particle can escape the potential, with some exploring the implications of the potential's shape and the particle's energy levels.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different interpretations of the bound state concept. Some have offered clarifications regarding the conditions for a particle to be considered bound, while others are still grappling with the implications of the definitions provided in the textbook.

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There appears to be a misunderstanding regarding the behavior of particles in relation to infinite potentials and the definitions of bound states. The original poster's reference to the potential and energy levels indicates a need for deeper exploration of the assumptions underlying these concepts.

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I am confused about bound states in QM. My book defines bound states as those in which the particle cannot escape to infinite.

It then gives an example of a potential which is infinite when x is less than 0, -V_0 when x is between 0 and a, and 0 when x >= a.

But then it says that "a particle with mass m is in a bound state in this potential with energy <= 0"

How can this particle possibly be in a bound state when it will have a nonzero probability of being at positive infinity?

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Well, from just reading your definition, I don't see how you draw the conclusion that the particle has a nonzero probability of being at positive infinity when x<0. For the particle to escape to infinity, it must move towards the right, breaking through x=0. However, the potential at x=0 (and anywhere to the left) is infinite, so the particle will not be able to break through this. Therefore, the particle is bound.
 
What do you mean it must break through at x=0?

What do you mean when "being at positive infinity when x< 0"?

The particle is never anywhere where x is less than 0.
 
I see the problem. I said that the particle has non-zero probability of being at infinity. That is never true.

I meant that it has nonzero probability of being at at an arbitrarily large finite positive x-position.

Just consider the finite square well with energy less than the top of the well. The solution in the classically disallowed region is an decreasing exponential. My book says that is bound. That makes no sense to me.
 

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