Boundary Conditions and Normalization for Double Well Potential Eigenstates

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The discussion revolves around solving the eigenstates of a quantum mechanical double well potential described by a piecewise Hamiltonian. The potential includes infinite barriers at both ends and a finite potential well in the middle, leading to a need for careful application of boundary conditions and normalization of the wave functions.

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  • Participants explore the functional forms of the wave functions in different regions of the potential and discuss the implications of boundary conditions at the edges of the potential well.
  • Some participants question the validity of having multiple wave functions equal to each other and emphasize the need for distinct solutions in different regions.
  • There is a focus on the continuity of the wave functions and their derivatives at the boundaries between regions of different potential values.
  • Participants express uncertainty about how to reduce the number of coefficients in the wave function solutions and how to relate them across different regions.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants actively questioning boundary conditions and exploring relationships between the wave functions in different regions. Some guidance has been offered regarding the need for continuity and the implications of infinite potential barriers, but no consensus has been reached on the exact relationships or next steps.

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Participants note the complexity introduced by the piecewise nature of the potential and the requirement for normalization, which adds constraints to the problem. There is also mention of potential confusion regarding terminology and the representation of the boundaries.

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Consider the Hamiltonian ##H=-\frac{d^2}{dx^2}+V(x)##

##V(x) =\begin{cases} \infty & x < 0 ,x>\pi \\V_0 & \frac{\pi}{2}-\frac{a}{2} \geq x \leq \frac{\pi}{2}+\frac{a}{2} \\ 0 &elsewhere\end{cases}##

Use the boundary conditions at x=0 and x=##\pi## to set two of the constants and then use the boundary conditions of continuity of the wave functiond and the first derivative at ##x=\frac{\pi}{2}-\frac{a}{2}## and when ##x=\frac{\pi}{2}+\frac{a}{2}## as well as normalization to solve for the lowest 4 eigenstates.

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So when Schrödinger's is zero: ##\frac{d^2\psi(x)}{dx^2}=E\psi(x)##

So I found that ##\psi_1(x)=Asin(\sqrt{E}x)+Bcos(\sqrt{E}x)##

Then when ##V(x)=V_0##:##\frac{d^2\psi(x)}{dx^2}+V_0\psi(x)=E\psi(x)##

Then if E>V: ##\psi_2(x)=Csin(\sqrt{E-V_0}x)+Dcos(\sqrt{E-V_0}x)##

Or if V>E: ##\psi_3(x)=Le^{\sqrt{V_0-E}x}+Fe^{-\sqrt{V_0-E}x}##

I know that if x=0 then A must be zero. I'm not sure what to do with pi though. Another student showed me that they had an additional equation for ##\psi## but I'm not sure where it came from:

##\psi(x)_4=Gsin(\sqrt{V_0-E}(x-\pi))+Hcos(\sqrt{V_0-E}(x-\pi))##

Before I can even give the second part of the question a shot I think I need to reduce the number of coefficients first. If the above equation is accurate (though I have no clue where it came from at the moment) then G would need to be 0 as well. That's 6 coefficients left.

From here I believe that ##\psi_1=\psi_2=\psi_3## (I can't guess about the fourth). I'm just not sure what my next steps should be to get rid of so many variables.
 
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You should not have three functions that are equal to each other, you should have three different functions, each valid in a particular range of ##x## for the solution. You essentially have the functional form for the solutions in the different parts already and you need to determine the constants. The big problem here is finding out the boundary conditions and adapting the constants to them. What boundary conditions will be valid at ##x = 0## and ##x = \pi##? What boundary conditions must be fulfilled at the boundary between the ##V = 0## and ##V = V_0## regions?
 
Orodruin said:
What boundary conditions will be valid at ##x = 0## and ##x = \pi##? What boundary conditions must be fulfilled at the boundary between the ##V = 0## and ##V = V_0## regions?

I guess I'm stuck at this then.

Well, I know that A must be zero so the function that describes the range where ## 0\leq x <
\frac{\pi}{2}-\frac{a}{2} ## and ##\frac{\pi}{2}+\frac{a}{2} <x\leq \pi## is##\psi_1(x)=Bcos(\sqrt{E}x)##

For ##\psi_2## and ##\psi_3## I can't apply the same constraints because it is outside their range. However, I thought it would be true that they should be equal to each other since they describe the function in the same area of the well. And, I assumed that ##\psi_1## would be continuous at the barrier with 2 and 3.

I imagine that I should have something like B=C+D or L+F=B depending on the relationship of E and V.
 
The boundary condition at ##x = 0## (and ##x=L##) should be that the wave function is zero. This is essentially because the wave function has to be zero when the potential is infinite and it is continuous. Also note that you will have different constants in front of the solution for ##\psi_1## in the disjoint regions you described in the last post.

In the middle region you will have either ##\psi_2## or ##\psi_3## depending on the energy. The boundary conditions (apart from continuity) can be inferred from integrating the Schrödinger equation in a small (infinitesimal) region around the boundary.
 
Orodruin said:
The boundary condition at ##x = 0## (and ##x=L##) should be that the wave function is zero. This is essentially because the wave function has to be zero when the potential is infinite and it is continuous. Also note that you will have different constants in front of the solution for ##\psi_1## in the disjoint regions you described in the last post.

In the middle region you will have either ##\psi_2## or ##\psi_3## depending on the energy. The boundary conditions (apart from continuity) can be inferred from integrating the Schrödinger equation in a small (infinitesimal) region around the boundary.

I don't understand quite what mean by ##x=L##. L isn't a boundary but a coefficient.

Do I need to treat this as two different double wells since I don't know the energy?

I think I understand the equation the other student had. It is describing the function on the right side of the well. And the trig argument is ##x-\pi## so that it is equal to the coefficient at the "wall."
So ##\psi_1## should be ##\psi_{1a}(x)=Bcos(\sqrt{E}x)## on one side and ##\psi_{1b}(x)=Acos(\sqrt{E}(x-\pi)## on the other.

Then, I should take the derivative of 2 and 3 and set them equal to what other derivative? I guess I can't say that 1a or 1b are equal to 3 or 4 or else they must equal each other. I want to believe that 1a=2 and 1b=3 but I can't physically reconcile that.
 
Sorry, I have been lecturing on an oscillating string with length L all evening so it was a backbone reaction. By L I mean pi.
 
It's no problem. So, I guess I have the 4 equations that I should need, I'm just not sure about their relationships at the boundary conditions.
 

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