Breaking Light: Can You Outrun the Speed of Light?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around the concept of whether it is possible to exceed the speed of light, particularly in the context of pointing a laser at the moon and the implications of moving the laser's spot across its surface. The scope includes theoretical considerations from special relativity and common misconceptions related to the speed of light.

Discussion Character

  • Debate/contested
  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants argue that pointing a laser at the moon and flicking the wrist results in the spot moving faster than light, but this is a misunderstanding of how light and information transmission work.
  • Others clarify that special relativity prohibits any physical process that transmits information faster than light, emphasizing that different photons hit the moon at different points rather than a single beam moving across it.
  • A participant expresses appreciation for the clarification regarding the nature of light particles and acknowledges the frequency of this misconception in discussions.
  • One participant refers to the question as an "OLD canard" that frequently resurfaces in discussions, indicating a commonality in the misunderstanding.
  • Another participant critiques the simplification of complex concepts in popular explanations, suggesting that such analogies can lead to confusion.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally disagree on the interpretation of the laser pointing scenario, with some asserting that it implies faster-than-light movement while others refute this claim based on principles of special relativity. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the broader implications of these interpretations.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations in understanding the nuances of light behavior and the implications of special relativity, as well as the potential for oversimplification in popular science explanations.

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"Breaking Light"

My friend tried explaining to me that you can "break" the speed of light. He showed me a youtube video, "minutephysics" saying that if you could point a laser at the moon, by flicking your wrist, the image/spot of the laser on the moon would be moving faster than light. Is he right?
 
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Doguso said:
My friend tried explaining to me that you can "break" the speed of light. He showed me a youtube video, "minutephysics" saying that if you could point a laser at the moon, by flicking your wrist, the image/spot of the laser on the moon would be moving faster than light. Is he right?

No. That is EXACTLY like saying that if you look at one star and then at another star, your gaze has gone faster than the speed of light. Nothing "moves" as the beam is swept across the moon. This is an OLD canard and has to be debunked here about once a month.
 


Doguso said:
My friend tried explaining to me that you can "break" the speed of light. He showed me a youtube video, "minutephysics" saying that if you could point a laser at the moon, by flicking your wrist, the image/spot of the laser on the moon would be moving faster than light. Is he right?

Special Relativity forbids physical processes that transmit some sort of information from exceeding the speed of light. Pointing a laser at the moon and flicking your wrist does not transfer any physical thing at faster than the speed of light. Different light hits the moon at the different points you point the laser at. The same light would have to move from one edge of the moon to the other for special relativity to be violated, but that is not something you can do since you're constantly sending out a stream of different photons.
 


Thank you. How you explained the different particles of light is what's moving was a better way than I could to my friend. Least I have good proof of this... I'm semi-surprised that you're asked this so frequently haha. Sorry if I annoyed you guys with such a stupid theory.
 


This is what happens when you try to fit something you don't know a lot about into a minute and the pixel analogy is ludicrous.
 

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