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The discussion revolves around the behavior of light bulbs when connected to different voltage supplies than they are rated for. The specific cases involve a 240 V, 100 W bulb connected to a 120 V supply, and a 120 V, 100 W bulb connected to a 240 V supply.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss the calculations of power and resistance for each bulb under different voltage conditions. Questions arise regarding the correctness of the original poster's reasoning and the implications of temperature on resistance.

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Some participants affirm the original poster's calculations while noting that the resistance of the bulbs changes with temperature. There is an ongoing exploration of how to accurately calculate power in these scenarios, with suggestions to consider the relationship between power rating, temperature, and resistance.

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There is mention of an answer key that may be incorrect regarding the outcomes for the bulbs, particularly in part b). Participants also highlight the complexity of calculating power without knowing the temperature-related resistance changes.

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Homework Statement



Q. What will happen when

a) A bulb rated 240 V 100W is connected to a 120 V supply .
b) A bulb rated 120 V 100W is connected to a 240 V supply

Homework Equations



P = V2/R

The Attempt at a Solution



a) R = 2402/100 = 576Ω

Power dissipated when the bulb is put across a 120V supply = 1202/576 = 25W .

The bulb lights dimmer .

b) R = 1202/100 = 144Ω

Power dissipated when the bulb is put across a 240V supply = 2402/144 = 400W .

Since power dissipated is more than the rated power ,the bulb fuses .

Is this reasoning correct ?

Many thanks !
 
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It is correct. The powers are not exactly the same you calculated, as the resistance changes with temperature quite much, but the outcome is correct.

ehild
 
ehild said:
It is correct. The powers are not exactly the same you calculated, as the resistance changes with temperature quite much, but the outcome is correct.

ehild

Thank you very much :)

Could you explain how would we calculate the power in the two cases . Or what should have been the correct reasoning in this question ?

In between the answer given for the part a) is that the bulb fuses . The answer to part b) is not given .I think the answer key has got it wrong.
 
Vibhor said:
Could you explain how would we calculate the power in the two cases . Or what should have been the correct reasoning in this question ?
You can not calculate it without knowing the relation between power rating and temperature, and resistance related to temperature. It would be too complicated. So all you can do is what you did. Your reasoning is correct.
For fun, just try to measure the resistance of the light bulb when it is cold. Use a simple multimeter, you certainly have at home or at school. You will see, that it is only a few ohms, while the resistance calculated from the nominal power rating and voltage is a few hundred ohms.

Vibhor said:
In between the answer given for the part a) is that the bulb fuses . The answer to part b) is not given .I think the answer key has got it wrong.

No, the bulb will not fuse if you connect it to a voltage less than minimal! Your answer was correct.

ehild
 
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Vibhor said:
The answer to part b) is not given .I think the answer key has got it wrong.

In the real world, the answer to b) is that the bulb would burn out pretty much immediately but I assume the question mean an "ideal bulb" where power dissipation is not an issue.
 

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